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We need your Help to cover the cost of our legal defense, please if you can, donate ! #crowdfunding #metoo #okcinfo #metooguru

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Dear Donators, Friends and Supporters

We need help finalizing the costs for the court of cassation before we get ready for the next phase of the new Trial 

In this crowdfunding we raised 5556 € from which after expenses 163€ are left

We need to raise precisely 983,43 €  just to cover the cost of the court of cassation phase. (that we WON!!)

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Secte OKC: procès à refaire à Liège! #dérivessectaires #sectesnuisible #metoo #OKC #OgyenKunzangCholing

Secte OKC: procès à refaire à Liège! #dérivessectaires #sectesnuisible #metoo #OKC #OgyenKunzangCholing

Supplément “Local: entre Sambre et Meuse”, - 13 jui. 2019

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La cour d’appel de Bruxelles avait, à tort, relevé plusieurs fautes de procédure pour prononcer la relaxe générale.

J.-P. Ds

Ce mercredi après-midi, la Cour de cassation a censuré l’arrêt de la cour d’appel de Bruxelles qui avait, le 18 septembre dernier, déclaré l’extinction de certaines poursuites par la prescription et qui avait retenu plusieurs fautes de procédure pour prononcer l’irrecevabilité des poursuites pour le reste du dossier. C’était l’acquittement technique pour Robert Spatz et son staff, soit les dirigeants de la secte Ogyen Kunzang Choling. Celle-ci a eu son siège à Aiseau-Presles, pendant plusieurs années.

La très haute juridiction a estimé mercredi que les délais de prescription ont été mal calculés par la cour d’appel et que, si fautes de procédure il y a eu, elles n’entraînent pas la nullité des poursuites. Le procès devra repartir à zéro devant la cour d’appel de Liège.

Le 18 septembre, la cour d’appel de Bruxelles avait donc réformé le jugement du tribunal correctionnel qui, pourtant, dans une décision longuement motivée, avait condamné la plupart des dirigeants d’OKC. Le gourou Robert Spatz (75 ans) avait écopé de 4 ans d’emprisonnement ferme.

Dans ce dossier, se mêlent des accusations de pédophilie, de viols de femmes majeures, de séquestrations d’enfants, de prises d’otages, d’exploitation de la main-d’œuvre très souvent bénévole, d’organisation criminelle, de blanchiment, d’évasion fiscale, d’escroqueries, de faux en pagaille…

Mais, aux yeux de la cour d’appel, cet acquittement technique était inévitable, en raison notamment de dérapages de l’expert financier désigné par le juge d’instruction. Les trois juges avaient, en effet, pointé du doigt les commentaires hors de propos de l’expert judiciaire qui doit être impartial et indépendant.

Confusion des rôles

Or, il y a bien eu confusion des rôles puisque l’expert parle d’infractions commises par des prévenus, «constate des infractions» et se permet des remarques sur le travail des enquêteurs, des magistrats et même des journalistes!

L’intéressé avait observé des extorsions de fonds et se prononçait sur la culpabilité d’inculpés qu’il condamnait avant procès! La cour d’appel de déplorer que cet expert soit parti d’un postulat de départ, à savoir qu’il allait examiner le dossier de coupables. Robert Spatz était notamment désigné comme le dirigeant occulte de certaines sociétés commerciales ou ASBL.

Mais, mercredi, la Cour de cassation a répondu que s’il y avait faute de l’expert – ce qui n’est pas démontré –, celle-ci n’entraînait pas automatiquement la nullité des poursuites. Il s’agit, à l’estime de la juridiction suprême, d’observer aussi si le dossier repose sur d’autres moyens de preuve. Par ailleurs, les infractions de mœurs ne reposent pas sur des expertises financières. Et nous n’avons retenu que quelques-uns des arguments déployés par la très haute cour pour renvoyer la patate chaude à Liège…

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Nouvelles poursuites contre le gourou d’OKC [ FR/EN ] #okcinfo #procesOKC #sectes

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Le parquet de Bruxelles a ouvert une nouvelle notice pour blanchiment à l’encontre de Robert Spatz, le gourou de la secte bouddhiste OKC, a-t-on appris auprès de plusieurs avocats lors du procès qui s’est clôturé mardi sur une irrecevabilité totale des poursuites. Selon M e Quentin Wauters, l’avocat de Robert Spatz, son client, qui vit en Espagne depuis des années, doit être entendu le 1 er octobre par la police espagnole dans le cadre d’une demande d’entraide formulée par la justice belge.

La somme de 272.000 euros, issue de ventes de biens, a par ailleurs été saisie sur les comptes de cet homme de 74 ans. Le parquet bruxellois a également demandé à Robert Spatz un examen médical pour justifier son absence lors des deux procès belges de 2016 et 2018. Le gourou n’avait assisté à aucune audience, prétextant un état de santé déficient.

Ces faits étant liés à ceux qui viennent d’être jugés, ils sont fortement contestés par la défense. En effet, la loi veut que l’on ne puisse être jugé deux fois pour les mêmes faits. Les faits nouvellement reprochés portent aussi sur des soupçons de blanchiment portant sur les années 2017 et 2018. Cette notice de blanchiment a été ouverte en 2016, peu après la fin du premier procès ayant mené à la condamnation de Robert Spatz à une peine de quatre ans de prison ferme.

Aujourd’hui ni acquitté ni condamné, Robert Spatz a bénéficié mardi, comme tous les autres prévenus, de l’irrecevabilité des poursuites. La cour d’appel de Bruxelles a estimé qu’à la suite d’erreurs commises par un expert judiciaire, un substitut du procureur et le juge du premier procès, il y a eu « atteinte irrémédiable aux droits de la défense » . L’enquête judiciaire, ouverte à la fin des années 90, avait démontré des soupçons de faits de mœurs commis sur des membres de la communauté sectaire ainsi que toute une série de délits économiques et financiers.

Durant le résumé de l’arrêt, lu pendant 1h30 par le premier président de la cour d’appel de Bruxelles, Luc Maes, il n’a pas été question une seule fois des victimes qui se retrouvent dépourvues 21 ans après le début de l’affaire.

OCTAVE MOREL

source : LeSoir


English translation : 

The Brussels Public Prosecutor's Office has opened a new notice for money laundering against Robert Spatz, the guru of the Buddhist sect OKC, it was reported to several lawyers during the trial which ended on Tuesday on a total inadmissibility of the proceedings. According to Quentin Wauters, Robert Spatz's lawyer, his client, who has lived in Spain for years, is to be heard on 1 October by the Spanish police as part of a request for mutual assistance from the Belgian justice system.

The sum of 272,000 euros, resulting from the sale of property, was also seized from the accounts of this 74-year-old man. The Brussels public prosecutor's office also asked Robert Spatz for a medical examination to justify his absence from the two Belgian trials in 2016 and 2018. The guru had not attended any hearings, claiming that he was in poor health.

As these facts are linked to those just tried, they are strongly contested by the defence. Indeed, the law requires that one cannot be tried twice for the same facts. The newly accused facts also concern suspicions of money laundering for the years 2017 and 2018. This money laundering notice was opened in 2016, shortly after the end of the first trial that led to Robert Spatz's conviction to four years in prison.

Now neither acquitted nor convicted, Robert Spatz, like all the other defendants, benefited on Tuesday from the inadmissibility of the proceedings. The Brussels Court of Appeal ruled that following errors made by a judicial expert, a prosecutor's deputy and the judge at the first trial, there had been an "irremediable infringement of the rights of the defence". The judicial inquiry, opened at the end of the 1990s, revealed suspicions of morals committed against members of the sectarian community as well as a whole series of economic and financial crimes.

During the summary of the judgment, read for 1h30 by the first president of the Brussels Court of Appeal, Luc Maes, there was not a single mention of the victims who find themselves deprived 21 years after the case began.

Wanted, Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang

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The OKC cult case ends with another fiasco for the Belgian Justice system #okcinfo #belgium #cults

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23 victims had filed civil claims for rape, sexual assault and financial crimes. The public prosecutor, the first judge and a judicial expert take it for their rank.

Would it be good to live in Belgium for cults? Two and a half years after the spectacular end of the Scientology trial in Brussels, the OKC Buddhist sect's trial ended on Tuesday morning in the same way: a fiasco.

On the front line, as defense counsel in these two of the thickest cases known in the country in recent years, Ms. Quentin Wauters, counsel for Guru Robert Spatz, said he was "relieved that the Court of Appeal is enforcing the rules of the rule of law when the entire proceedings have been violated. Every citizen must be satisfied with it. Laurent Kennes, who defends companies linked to the OKC, welcomes "a very good ruling".

Beautiful and severe: on Tuesday, the first president of the Brussels Court of Appeal, Luc Maes, delivered a particularly cruel judgment against three characters, the judicial expert Bruno Morselli, Judge Jean-Luc Vander Goten and the deputy prosecutor of King Thibaut Radar. He concluded by saying: "Respect for the right to a fair trial has been irreparably damaged by multiple and diverse violations of the presumption of innocence and reasonable time. "During the summary of the judgment, read for 1h30 by Mr Maes, there was no mention once of the victims who now find themselves deprived, 21 years after the case began.

"Failure to exercise the duty of independence"

OKC (Ogyen Kunzang Chöling) was founded in 1972 by the then 28-year-old Belgian Robert Spatz. Dozens of families have lived in properties in Brussels, southern France and Portugal, in a quasi-autarcy.

And so dozens of children were born in this context, knowing nothing about the outside world until they came of age. About ten facts of sexual abuses were reported.

At the end of the 1990s, the Belgian and French courts became interested in the phenomenon and seized a whole series of assets.

But the case quickly took a turn for the worse with the first of the four serious offences identified by the Court of Appeal. The legal expert in charge of the investigation into the cult's accounts, Bruno Morselli, produced ten reports filled with "personal feelings". He "failed in his duty of independence and impartiality and took on the role of investigator, even judge," the court accused the court. As a result, "no evidence of guilt can be drawn from his work".

"Hijacked" criminal procedure

The second serious offence was committed in 2006 when the prosecutor Thibaut Radar, in charge of the prosecution, launched new searches on OKC properties, "under the cover of a social inspection investigation (...). It is knowingly that the King's Prosecutor violated his duty of loyalty by "secretly misappropriating criminal proceedings", President Maes said.

The third serious offence, still attributed to the public prosecutor, was committed at the end of 2015 when the Radar substitute sent a letter to all the alleged victims, offering them the opportunity to file a civil suit and have access to the file. "The prosecution exceeded its functions by sending this letter," the court asserts, allowing "leaks on social networks," which have "considerably reduced the evidence.

The last stage of the rocket to the fiasco: the trial at first instance during which some twenty new victims appeared and were heard while the president of the court, Jean-Luc Vander Goten, prohibited any questioning of the defense and the public prosecutor.

"By systematically refusing in principle the right to ask any questions, the first judge violated the principle of adversarial debate and the rights of the defense were amputated," President Maes concluded. Close the ban.


Home-made translation of this LeSoir article by Octave Morel

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Nouvelles poursuites contre le gourou d’OKC

Le parquet de Bruxelles a ouvert une nouvelle notice pour blanchiment à l’encontre de Robert Spatz, le gourou de la secte bouddhiste OKC, a-t-on appris auprès de plusieurs avocats lors du procès qui s’est clôturé mardi sur une irrecevabilité totale des poursuites. Selon M e Quentin Wauters, l’avocat de Robert Spatz, son client, qui vit en Espagne depuis des années, doit être entendu le 1 er octobre par la police espagnole dans le cadre d’une demande d’entraide formulée par la justice belge.

La somme de 272.000 euros, issue de ventes de biens, a par ailleurs été saisie sur les comptes de cet homme de 74 ans. Le parquet bruxellois a également demandé à Robert Spatz un examen médical pour justifier son absence lors des deux procès belges de 2016 et 2018. Le gourou n’avait assisté à aucune audience, prétextant un état de santé déficient.

Ces faits étant liés à ceux qui viennent d’être jugés, ils sont fortement contestés par la défense. En effet, la loi veut que l’on ne puisse être jugé deux fois pour les mêmes faits. Les faits nouvellement reprochés portent aussi sur des soupçons de blanchiment portant sur les années 2017 et 2018. Cette notice de blanchiment a été ouverte en 2016, peu après la fin du premier procès ayant mené à la condamnation de Robert Spatz à une peine de quatre ans de prison ferme.

Aujourd’hui ni acquitté ni condamné, Robert Spatz a bénéficié mardi, comme tous les autres prévenus, de l’irrecevabilité des poursuites. La cour d’appel de Bruxelles a estimé qu’à la suite d’erreurs commises par un expert judiciaire, un substitut du procureur et le juge du premier procès, il y a eu « atteinte irrémédiable aux droits de la défense » . L’enquête judiciaire, ouverte à la fin des années 90, avait démontré des soupçons de faits de mœurs commis sur des membres de la communauté sectaire ainsi que toute une série de délits économiques et financiers.

Durant le résumé de l’arrêt, lu pendant 1h30 par le premier président de la cour d’appel de Bruxelles, Luc Maes, il n’a pas été question une seule fois des victimes qui se retrouvent dépourvues 21 ans après le début de l’affaire.

Source : LeSoir - OCTAVE MOREL

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Sometimes winning a battle is about knowing when to let it go ! #okcinfo #okcspatz #metooguru #metoo

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Thanks to all your donations both offline and online, we now reached 4.538€ we still have to top-up with 2000€ to reach the first step of being able to pay the lawyers.

If you can still share this campaign via email, social media or word of mouth please Know that each of these little things help us tremendously reach our general goal.

The Judgement day is approaching soon, many people from different countries will join and be present to the final of this 20 year long trial, the date is 18th of September, Justice Palace of Brussels. Check our out facebook event via the OKCinfo page to make sure to get the latest updates.

For many of us this is the end of a journey that started in 2016 with the first trial where OKC-Spatz got themselves a nice 4 year suspended sentence that they appealed 10 days after the sentence resulting in an appeal court trial in 2018. if there was one image representative enough to speak about the appeal is : Facebook comments & images where the only arguments beside openly lying under oath to counter our arguments and our multi faceted but converging stories depicting the reality inside OKC.

The cult could not do better than what they did to serve our objective : most of the testimonies from cult insiders to counter our arguments displayed either lies, cult conditioning, severe lack of discernment, absurd perjury and the use of Tibetan Buddhist figures to justify the legitimacy of their so called Buddhist center. We hope the Belgian Justice will be able to cut through the bullshit and see OKC and Spatz and the 7 direct accomplice as what they are : criminals that need to face their actions and their utter lack of integrity.

History will always remember the version of the survivors and we'll make sure it stays that way for eons to come: Ogyen Kunzang Choling is dead, Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang is just a shadow of psychopathy maintained alive by his utter fear of death and his belief that death is so important moment of life where one's actions are scrutinized, felt and seen by oneself and that on that moment, every pain, every abuse, every torture will be felt thousands of times stronger and for eternity.

That's what await the circle of jerks around RS and that's what await RS/LK and that's what they will get. Karma is a bitch they say, Human Justice may be flawed (flaws used and abused by OKC to last this trial for 20 years is one of their feats certainly) but in the end, even before the judgement day, we already won, we spoke up, we united to fight the only battle worth battling for : ourselves and that along with handling our lives and healing is the best way to celebrate winning with or without a matching human justice system sentence.

May the Light always be !

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Update: Thanks to all the donations, offline & online, they really help us reach our crowdfunding goal ! #meetoo #okcinfo

Update: Thanks to all the donations, offline & online, they really help us reach our crowdfunding goal ! #meetoo #okcinfo

Even though the "Thunderclap" generated some more awareness about our case, we still have to reach a minimal of 5K in our crowdfunding to be able to pay just the first part of our legal defence. offline donations will be added to the overall total of donations on https://www.gofundme.com/okcinfo, right now we're just above 4K with the offline donations. 

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"When any type of abuse, sexual or spiritual, requires a cost-benefit analysis, you have failed."

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A Letter to Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche Concerning “Guru and Student in the Vajrayana” – How Did It Happen?

In your letter, you emphasized that Vajrayana needs to be properly introduced. What I understood from your letter is that even though an authentic Vajra Master can pretty much do whatever they see fit, the relationship needs to be properly established. You say the Vajrayana teachings lay this out clearly. From this point of view, I would say I was not properly introduced, neither to the Vajryana nor the Dzogchen Samaya. If I manage to get a good lawyer, I think I have good chance to argue in Vajrayana court that my contract was not valid.

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August 2017 : Game of Thrones : sexual abuser sits on a Buddhist Temple in total impunity #buddhism #OKCinfo #sexualabuse

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Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang in 2017

Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang Nyima-Dzong 2017

Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang in NyimaDzong 2017

caption : photos taken in Nyigma-Dzong Buddhist Temple in august 2017, Robert Spatz serial sexual abusers sits on the main Temple alongside a statue of Khyentsé Rinpoché & other Tibetan Buddhist statues after a 18 years inquiry that culminated with a trial in 2016 where 23 new civil parties joined forces to denounce grave authority/sexual/spiritual abuse behind so called Vajrayana/Dzogchen initiations.

 

`Non Non Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang, accusé de 170 crimes dont abus sexuels sur mineurs et majeurs, torture et fraude fiscale et social, trône sur son siège à château de Soleils aka Nyima Dzong (depuis 40 ans) a côté de statues bouddhistes des plus grandes références du Bouddhisme Tibétain, dans un Temple dit Bouddhiste le tout sous les ordres explicites de Ogyen Kunzang Choling Bruxelles et son secrétaire général Lamten. Mais RS n'a plus rien à voir avec la OKC bien sûr. d'ailleurs sa Fondation Kunzang, dont il est le fondateur et l'administrateur en chef, elle non plus.. N'a rien à voir avec la OKC...

No No Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang, accused of 170 crimes from sexual abuse on minors & majors of age, torture, fiscal and social fraud is sitting in his throne at "Château de Soleils" aka Nyima-Dzong (since 40 years) alongside with Buddhist statues from the biggest references in Tibetan Buddhism, in a so called Buddhist Temple following the direct orders from Ogyen Kunzang Choling Brussels and his general secretary Lamten. 

But as everybody knows RS (Robert Spatz) has nothing to do with OKC anymore, by the way his Kunzang Foundation, from wich he is the sole founder and chief administrator has nothing to do with OKC neither. 

 

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Sogyal Rinpoche Has Resigned from #Rigpa #Buddhism

It's interesting to see how the word allegations is being used all across the world when it's about Men sexual abuse, usually rich, priviledged, powerful men using their positions to try at all cost to appear innocent, "using the justice system" or a third-party independent body to look into these "allegations" while maintaning a narrative to appear like innocent. the denial is still KING, either for Sogyal or for RIGPA board, the tone of the letters sound as if the allegations will be proven false and his reputation soon restored. 

 

Letter to Sogyal from brave 8 : https://www.lionsroar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Letter-to-Sogyal-Lakar-14-06-2017-.pdf

letter to his students : https://cdn.tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/1_sr_letter_august_2017_eng-1.pdf 

board letter to their Sangha : : https://cdn.tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2_rigpa_letter_aug_2017_eng-1.pdf 

Presse release from RIGPA : https://cdn.tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Rigpa-press-statement-final-20170811.pdf

It's probably the last time we have to LINK the case to the case, both bearing very similar behaviour, not only from the "board" but also from the accused "master" himself, both using narratives, words and excuses to appear innocent that cannot be taken seriously. 

Any independent third-party looking into these matters should be the French Justice System, the Police, but for this to happen, survivors NEED to make a formal complaint, need to use the Human Law Justice system to make sure these so called "masters" are judged not only from a spiritugal point of view but most certainly from a Human Law point of view. Buddhism cannot exclude itself or put himsel on top of Human Laws as if sexual abuses conducted by a so called "master" can only be judged by spiritual laws or worst : stay for ever managed like a personal, internal dispute that an independent third-party could solve. 

Survivors from sexual abuse MUST go to Justice, must make a formal complaints, that is the only way to force not only Sogyal to face his actions but also to take this very very seriously and make sure this never ever happens again. of course adopting a code of conduct (the irony that a code of conduct needs to be crafted for a spiritual philosophy will not escape to anyone that Knows just even a fraction of what Buddhism stand for) 

To survivors we say : 

- Go to Justice, Buddhism is not a Law on top of Human Laws and Human Justice System. 
- If we really want to Clean Buddhism from these serial abusers, keeping this scandal an internal affair will never solve the problem, it will only push for later the possibility of a real, lasting solutions that can be put in place all across Dharma centers all around the World. 
- Do not think for one second that, as a survivor, Speaking up is Equal to "Harming Buddhism or Dharma or RIGPA" this is an excuse, used both in the case of OKC or other scandals that is a construct to minimise the importance of the abuse with the intent to preserve, turn off the light, the public eye from these abusers that use Buddhist Sangha & Dharma as a shield. 

Let's finish the work : let's speak up, let's make sure this never happens to anyone ever again. 

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The untold short story of #OKC and Robert Spatz aka Ogyen Kunzang Chöling #Buddhism #SexualAbuse #Cult

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At some point NOT taking a position is equal to being complice to criminals so in the aftermath of the brave 8 students that found the courage to speak, we at have some advice :

- Do not make the same mistake we did by not speaking earlier and by not going to the Police/Justice with a formal complaints.

- Do not equate going to the Police/Justice to "harming the Dharma", this is a false argument used by so called Buddhist & Sangha all across the globe to keep hiding the unspeakable acts from their Guru's, with the excuse to protect Buddhism reputation, Buddhism reputation is suffering BECAUSE of these so called guru's behaviours todwards their students, not the other way around. Samaya is NOT broken by making a formal complaints to force a serial abuser to face his own action, quite on the contrary ! Samaya IS BROKEN by the guru's by breaking the trust, the relation, the confidence of students by abusing them, let's not use Buddhist logics AGAINST victims of sexual abuse.

- Buddhism does NOT replace the Laws of Men and the Judiciary. Sometimes Karma need a little bit of Help to play his role and staying in silence over grave abuse of power, sex, money etc..

- "Buddhism does not have a hierarchy" stated by countless Buddhist observers, practicioners or even Dalai-Lama translator Matthieu Ricard is a false argument : of course Buddhism have a hierarchy, just ask anyone in any Sangha all over the world how complicated it is to place different Teachers,Lama, Guru's in the same Temple : who should be higher ? who should sit next to whom ? who will speak ? who will be teaching ?

All these questions and all this diplomacy is a living proof there is a hierarchy, there is a lineage, there is an order, there is different schools with different leaders, all together they form the different schools of thought inside the big Buddhist familly. Of course the hierarchy in Buddhism is different in each country but in the West, there is different schools dominating in different countries and each of them have their own structure and autonomy, but that is not per se an argument to affirm there is no hierarchy in Buddhism.

There is a hierarchy of Importance, of Lineage, of experience, and IF this is not enough to take a position in the case of RIGPA or OKC, then perhaps Buddhism need some serious mutation to abide to some basic Human Laws such as : Integrity, Transparency, Ethics since it seems Buddhism is not enough to provide for such basic protection for students that should not be alone facing the responsibility of meeting with a predator guru under the disguise of the Perfect Teacher.

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Confirmé : Rabjam Rimpoché annule sa visite à OKC Bruxelles et #OKC France #Bouddhisme #13avril

Confirmé : Rabjam Rimpoché annule sa visite à OKC Bruxelles et #OKC France #Bouddhisme #13avril

Plusieurs visites était prévues par OKC pour redorer son blason entre la fin du procès et l'appel en justice. 

De l'avis des parties civiles ces visites n'ont pas lieux d'être, d'ailleurs OKC ne fait pas partie des centres bouddhistes que ce soit en France ou en Belgique, si ces tibétains veulent enseigner le Bouddhisme qu'ils aillent dans des centres officiels qui ne sont pas en procès pour abus sexuels, fraudes et manipulation de masse. c'est aussi simple que ça.


Et pourtant OKC n'a pas l'air de réagir et laisse sur son site web ces évènements comme si ils allaient tous se dérouler comme prévu, hors une partie de ces dates ont bel et bien été annulées d'après nos informations.

Listes des dates ici : http://okc-net.org/index.php/events/
Listes des Lama Tibétains encore affiché sur le site OKC avec ou contre leur gré : http://okc-net.org/index.php/project/

contexte : http://www.okcinfo.news/2017/40-years-of-abuse-in-the-name-of-dharma-the

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40 Years of abuse in the Name of #Dharma : the story of @OgyenKun Ogyen Kunzang Choling #Buddhism

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Recently and while we wait for the appeal to take place (2 years) we noticed that members travelled to Asia to meet with Rabjam Rimpoché (the so called Tibetan head of OKC since RS "retired" a vain illusion to try to salvage a so called Buddhist center that should be dismantled. 

We noticed that other "Tibetan teachers" are invited to OKC's Brussels center but also to Nyima-Dzong (where part of the sexual/physical abuses took place)

We also noticed that the "masters" page in OKC website is gone, it's probably a bug since this page stayed online during the whole trial in 2016 and is a proud element used by OKC to legitimate the organisation. 

We noticed OKC new publication in their "judicial dossier" trying to explain their reason to go to appeal (against the will of most of the remaining community parents) and we noticed that the Buddhist Hierarchy in Europe is not listening to a real drift in Buddhism regarding fake "masters" and their behavior against their disciples but worst in the case of OKC : sexual & physical abuse on Children's & adults. (not even going to mention fraud, tax evasion & other accusations)


RS profile is a defacto serial-sexual-abuser-narcissist-pervert.

Because if you study the date of each sexual abuse the reality is that RS never stopped abusing woman or teeangers/young-adults in the last 40 years. RS may be still doing it, the so called "initiations" and discret kinky-drunk conversations of the honor to be desired or touched by the Master, all time flanked by Yana, his disciple/master, leading the recruiting methodology back into the inner circle.


Even the police raid in 1997 didn't impeach RS from abusing girls the moment he got out of Jail early 1998, the same happened in 2003 in Charleroi and another variant to a under-age girl in 2004 at his house in Spain.

Some of  these facts are not part of the instruction thanks to the not-so great Belgian Justice system and also the fact that the whole inquiry completely missed the story. its very distributed european dimmension allowed RS to defuse the ticking bomb over the years and the very fact that we, civil parties, were all busy constructing lives these last 2 decades Out of this Mess was the best weapon used against the whole case by RS/OKC : Managing Time and Information. that's how 19 years go by with the State Justice loosing its track and civil parties too busy to rebuild from scratch to just have the time to think : what should we do ? 

We feel it is time to go full frontal with the Buddhist "masters", it is time to confront their support to OKC (or to by the way) and we will not let time go by & allow the Buddhists to NOT take a stand, a position regarding their inconditional support up to this day, to a serial-pedo-rapist-abuser that literrally avoided his own trial for being fake-sick while perhaps still abusing other girls (major of age as of now, like if this was a good reason).

We will not stay silent and we will use the means we have : Public Shaming (as advised by Dalai-Lama regarding sexual abuse & fake "master") we will use the tools available to us : Social Media, Search Engine Optimization, everything will be done to disrupt their communication and STOP the Tibetan Buddhist Hierarchy to keep giving its official support to a toxic & dangerous criminal that destroyed the lives of so many people while creating an out of control utopia under Buddhist disguise. 


Demands: 

- Move the events in Brussels to any other legitimate Buddhist center in Belgium.
- Move the events in France to any other legitimate (not RIGPA) Buddhist center in France. 
- Cancel any plans to teach at OKC "centers" while there is a trial and appeal ongoing.


We will not hesitate going to the International and local Media to make sure this horrific story don't fade out while RS is busy preparing his defense for the incoming court appeal.

If needed we will intervene legally and peacefully in the Public Space to denounce, confront in the open and make sure plenty of journalists & media are present while doing so.

Ogyen Kunzang Choling legal existence should be dismantled, then only a plan to save the Temples and all the Work and Dedication of hundreds of people can be restored to all the members.

But OKC back-leaded by Robert Spatz decided to Appeal after a VERY clement sentence. Not the victims, not the civil parties in this story. neither the remaining of desperate OKC members, glued to a structure that only benefited the master puppet and his familly. this has to stop. Tibetan Buddhist lineage should take their responsibility : do not legitimize OKC by visiting it, it doesn't help Buddhism, it doesn't Help the victims, it doesn't help anyone.  
Cancel or move the events !

Prior to this, since 2015 we did everything in our power (with very close contact to the tibetan buddhist hierarchy) to alert them, explain them, with this very presentation, about the reality of OKC. it's like they live in isolated bubbles were the very actions of their peers go unchecked, un-balanced, or like in our case completely out of control if not mad. 


We get in return long explanations about the difference between our culture and theirs, we hear false arguments used to justify their silence and we hear the same old tibetan buddhist political excuses to avoid facing their own responsibility : mainly giving by their presence the authority to Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang to claim to be a Buddhist Master since 1972.

In 2017 the Tibetan Lineage is guiding OKC out of this mess but unable to publicly denounce and take a stand?
There is plenty of articles, blog post and what not regarding Buddhism, sexuality but also communities, cults, sectarian drifts and all the thinking that got out of the 60's and 70's but one cannot but ask the question:

Why is there so much sexual assaults attached to Buddhist centers, teachers and so on without a bigger impact in the mainstream everyday noise?

Buddhism is so nice, nobody wants to hear: sexual abuses & Buddhism together. right?

But it's there because no action was taken when it was still time, today OKC is nothing but a Name, the only reason its still afloat is because OKC is sold:present itself as the bedrock of Buddhism in Europe. it's an empty shell.

OKC cannot claim to dissociate from the actions of Robert Spatz and at the same time welcome Tibetan Buddhist teachers under its roof like if 2 decades of inquiry and the civil parties enlightened testimonies at the trial is invisible. 

OKC wants to/should dissociate from Spatz ? this boat also sailed months ago, when the very google slide above
was sent to high-level Buddhist teachers in different centers across Europe and the US.

You cannot dissociate from Robert Spatz while having the same Lawyers, the same piloted-defense only in the interests of RS and his name/brand OKC.

Dissociation is about turning upside down this trial and actually tell the truth. stop protecting individuals, structures or relations to avoid facing the effects of one's actions or inactions.  

Sexual abuse, harsh treatments: it's also present in other religions, cultures, countries etc...it's systemic if you look around it's like powerfull men either in Religious, Politicians, Economic areas can shield their egotic interests from the repercussion of such acts but are indeed only sitting on a time-bomb & from complete obliteration when the public radar cross the issue. Non-Violent Public Shaming. because by NOT taking any stance, any action, you choose a brand over your values, you choose the shame of western Buddhism as your ultimate associate. 

Let's clarify a few things: 

Sexual abuses, Physical harsh treatments are not a cultural option, its not meant to be this way even if increasingly common, harsh treatments are not something Tibetans or anyone are "culturally" used too, the argument "it's a different culture in the West or Asia", in both cases ANY sexual abuses on ANYONE is against the very logic of Buddhism and Human nature, there is no cultural axis that can be used to legitimate or explain or minimize abuses on Children's. no matter their social context, their religion, their race or any other "difference". Period. 

Nobody cares if in Tibet or Nepal or India a case like OKC would be given less or no importance, OKC is based in Europe, in Belgium, in Spain, France, left Portugal in 2012 after members deserted the boat.

Nobody is asking Rabjam Rimpoché his opinion on sexual abuse or the illegitimate abuse of his cultural heritage and name to manipulate and legitimize the whole OKC endeavour. this boat sailed long ago. 

The case here is about saying : I (tibetan teacher present in the OKC website) fully reject any associations, use of the image, name, branding used by OKC with the teachers of the Nygima-pa Tibetan School (association RS aka Lama Kunzang claim to be a direct recipient) and pledge to stop any activities with OKC at least until the trial/appeal has gone through.

If the Tibetan Buddhist Hierarchy in Europe is unable to take a stand, we will ! 

we have nothing to lose at this point. 

This joke has been going long enough, now comes the time to face the facts and clean the House of Buddha !



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OKC : Le "gourou" pédophile Robert Spatz alias "Lama Kunzang" va en appel #okcproces #justice #belgique

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Confirmation de l'appel Spatz-OKC, voici le dernier article de presse sorti dans l'Avenir le 15 décembre 2016 :

L’information nous a été communiquée officiellement: Robert Spatz, grand maître de la secte OKC, installée jadis à Aiseau-Presles, a décidé de relever appel de sa condamnation à 4 ans avec sursis, prononcée en septembre dernier. Le parquet et des victimes ont suivi cet appel, de telle manière que le procès reprendra de A à Z devant la cour d’appel de Bruxelles.

Il faudra rejuger la plupart des prévenus sur le plan pénal et revoir les intérêts civils des plaignants, dont beaucoup avaient été déboutés.

Poker de combines…

Même si le «Lama Kunzang», comme il se fait appeler, a été officiellement exclu, cette année, de la secte Ogyen Kunzang Chöling

(OKC) qu’il a fondée dans les années 70, il restera à jamais le personnage phare de cette «communauté spirituelle» présente en Belgique, en France, en Espagne et au Portugal. Dans notre pays, elle est listée comme particulièrement nuisible.

Lorsqu’il avait été libéré en 1997, après plusieurs semaines de détention, Spatz avait fui Bruxelles, où se trouvent pourtant toujours son siège central, son épicerie et son restaurant végétarien, pour s’inscrire clandestinement à Aiseau. Selon l’accusation, il y a à nouveau violé une mineure, mais le tribunal n’avait finalement pas retenu cette prévention, le gourou bénéficiant du doute, après des revirements de la plaignante. Il avait néanmoins été déclaré coupable de viols et d’attentats à la pudeur sur trois jeunes femmes, ainsi que sur deux mineures.

Des dizaines d’enfants ont également été pris en otages, séquestrés dans le château de Castellane, en Provence, et arrachés à leurs parents pour obtenir de ceux-ci qu’ils travaillent dans des conditions de semi-esclavagisme. Soit ils étaient contraints au bénévolat, soit ils recevaient des miettes dans les restaurants végétariens créés par Spatz.

Un as de la magouille!

Enfin, le «Lama Kunzang» s’est édifié un empire financier à travers une chaîne de sociétés, certaines off-shore, pour exploiter ses victimes, mettre ses très nombreux immeubles en location, blanchir son trésor de guerre et s’octroyer des «paradis terrestres» aux quatre coins du monde.

La sanction du tribunal était surtout financière, puisque Spatz et OKC devaient, à titre provisionnel, débourser près de 4 millions d’euros pour payer les confiscations et indemniser les victimes, dont le préjudice total n’est pas encore tout à fait arrêté.

Du fond de son palace, en Espagne, Spatz a mandaté ses avocats pour qu’ils relèvent appel de l’ensemble de ses condamnations. La date de l’ouverture du procès bis n’est pas encore connue.

gourou robert spatz va en appel

Source : l'Avenir

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Démission immédiate ! #okcproces @ogyenkun

Démission immédiate ! #okcproces @ogyenkun

Comment expliquer qu'une ASBL dont le but est soi disant le "Bouddhisme" qui a pour conseil d'administration 2 individus comme Rui de Oliveira et Cabé (respectivement bras droit et gauche de Robert Spatz depuis plus de 40 ans) puissent encore être après le procès et le jugement du 15 septembre 2016 toujours et encore Président et Sécrétaire Générale de la dite ASBL alors que son fondateur (Robert Spatz) a été condamné lourdement par la Justice Belge et que toutes les dérives qui ont eu lieu ces dernières décennies ont toutes été gérées, cachées, etouffées justement par ces deux individus ? 

Quel ASBL en 2016 laisse le même conseil d'administration en place après un Jugement comme celui ci ?

réponse: une ASBL qui n'a dans les faits aucune souveraineté, bref une secte nuisible.

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Uma resposta a "entrevista" do Expresso ao Rui de Carvalho Oliveira @ogyenkun #OKC

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Da entrevista do Expresso : Portugueses denunciam abusos de guru belga

Ficam os meus commentários entre as linhas.

3 PERGUNTAS A RUI DE CARVALHO OLIVEIRA

(Dirigente da casa-mãe da Ogyen Kunzang Chöling)

Robert Spatz foi condenado por abusos sexuais. O que pensa disto? (respostas da OKC)

A sentença do senhor Spatz traduziu-se numa pena suspensa relativamente à prisão e às indemnizações no valor acima de um milhão de euros. Relativamente às acusações feitas à OKC, o tribunal deu como provados alguns factos, aos quais não aplicou qualquer sanção e, por conseguinte, não há multa para pagar. No entanto, a OKC não se conformando com esta decisão, que considera surpreendente e que não teve em consideração as explicações dadas pela defesa, irá em breve decidir se opta por interpor recurso.

Resposta do Ricardo : 

Ora, as explicações dadas pela defesa são elas mesmas baseadas numa mentira. Uma mentira que, durante os últimos 20 anos, foi útil à defesa do Spatz e da OKC mas que hoje vai acabar : 

Em 1997 quando ouve os inquéritos no sul da França em Nyima-Dzong, as crianças que estavam e que foram interrogadas tinham entre 8 e 11 anos, algumas menos do que isso. 

Além da pouca idade, viviam fechadas no Mosteiro, visitavam os seus pais uma ou duas vezes por ano, e a maioria nem sequer tinha um familiar perto. A única vida que conheciam era aquela e mais nenhuma. Não tinham absolutamente NADA para comparar, pois desconheciam qualquer referência para poderem fazer uma comparação com a "vida normal".   

Portanto quando 200 carros e helicópteros dos militares chegaram no Mosteiro de Nyima-Dzong as crianças foram interrogadas (sem a presença dos pais ou de qualquer adulto) por supostos especialistas psicológicos e afins para determinar se as crianças estavam a sofrer maus tratos etc..E estando estas crianças completamente condicionadas, o resultado foi evidente: as crianças contaram aquilo que a polícia queria ouvir, nunca falaram de maus tratos físicos, nunca falaram de privação de comida, nem de "responsáveis" brutais e sem o mínimo de pedagogia para educar crianças. 

Resultado? O Mosteiro de Nyima-Dzong foi julgado pelo inquérito Francês como sendo "um lugar privilegiado" para a educação das crianças e até o modelo escolar foi descrito como detentor de melhores notas escolares do que as do sistema escolar francês. Muito bom para a OKC, muito errado e viciado para as partes civis. 

Outro detalhe e que muda tudo sobre o resultado desse inquérito é o facto de nunca se ter interrogado a geração mais velha acerca dos maus tratos, nem sobre os abusos sexuais sofridos por parte das raparigas desta geração. Nem se abordou o facto de Bernard, do FM ou do Andres serem todos responsáveis por maus tratos e, no caso de Bernard, também de abusos sexuais. Todos foram protegidos pelo Spatz e pela comunidade indirectamente até que o Bernard foi convidado a voltar para Nyima-Dzong, local onde abusou sexualmente de raparigas enquanto ainda viviam no Mosteiro meninas menores de idade.  

A geração que devia ter sido interrogada, esteve refém em Portugal, de 1993 até 97 (ano dos inquéritos europeus sobre a OKC e o Spatz). Quando a polícia Portuguesa chegou ao Mosteiro no Algarve encontrou um grupo de jovens que quase nunca tinha contactado com "o exterior", que aos 16 anos deixaram a escola secundária e que  passavam muito mais tempo a rezar e a praticar artes marciais do que a aprender qualquer coisa de útil para a sua vida. A polícia Portuguesa também não fez muitos esforços para compreender o que tinha em frente dos olhos : crianças condicionadas, jovens adolescentes que não tinham nenhum ponto de referência para comparar o que tinham vivido com a realidade de outras crianças em Portugal, França ou Bélgica. 

O facto é que os dados mais importantes do inquérito tanto em França como em Portugal e Espanha nunca foram encontrados pelos interrogadores, muito menos pela Polícia. O resultado é que nunca foram reconhecidos os maus tratos e os abusos sexuais sofridos por duas gerações e, como tal, nunca fizeram parte da instrução deste processo, o que deve ter sido um alívio enorme para o Rui de Carvalho e a OKC em geral. 

A aposta deles sempre foi que a minha geração ficasse calada. 

Portanto, tudo indica que o resultado do inquérito em França permitiu à OKC Bélgica disfarçar-se como um centro budista exemplar, com uma pedagogia de educação pioneira e muito à frente do que se fazia nos internatos ou nas escolas privadas de França ou Portugal. 

As vítimas falam de abusos no templo do Algarve. Confirma? (resposta da OKC)

O centro budista do Algarve não faz parte da OKC desde 2012. A OKC cessou completamente as suas atividades em Portugal nesse ano. Relativamente às acusações que dizem respeito à questão dos menores, baseiam-se exclusivamente em declarações orais não fundamentadas e que, na sua maioria, não faziam parte do processo. Foram ouvidas pela primeira vez durante as audiências sem que tenha sido possível ouvir testemunhas da defesa. Esta questão já tinha sido averiguada e julgada pelos tribunais franceses, resultando daí uma absolvição, bem como a conclusão expressa de que, ao inverso do que foi afirmado, as crianças eram bem tratadas. É surpreendente constatar que o tribunal não tomou minimamente em consideração nem os inúmeros documentos nem as explicações apresentadas durante as audiências.

Resposta do Ricardo : 

Pois, e porquê? Os responsáveis portugueses, mal souberam dos abusos sexuais e outros casos de maus tratos, voltaram para Portugal e em pouco tempo desmantelaram a OKC Portugal. Quando souberam da verdade os próprios fundadores dos centros em Portugal cessaram a actividade. 

Já expliquei porque as acusações que fizemos no julgamento não poderiam fazer "parte do processo", tendo em consideração que nós estávamos no Algarve e nunca fomos interrogados pela polícia. Em Bruxelas em 1997 na altura dos interrogatórios só estavam poucos jovens e, tanto eles como os seus Pais, contaram todos a mesma história: a maioria deles não conhecia toda a verdade e o facto é que a irmandade à volta do Spatz ameaçava qualquer pessoa dentro da seita que fizesse demasiadas perguntas e transformava todos os factos em argumentos contra as vítimas. Por exemplo o Rui de Carvalho tomou conhecimento muitos anos antes dos factos que ouviu no tribunal em Janeiro de 2016. Factos que foram denunciados muitos anos antes tanto por jovens que tiveram a coragem de enfrentá-lo como por adultos ex-adeptos da OKC que vieram falar com ele e lhe contaram a verdade toda. Ele, também condicionado pela ‘doutrina’, desmentiu todas essas acusações como sendo “rumores de pessoas que tinham tomado drogas e que não eram de confiança."

Será que nunca passou pela cabeça do Rui de Carvalho que a razão profunda de uma experiência de auto-destruição de alguns de jovens nos anos 2000 estava completa e unicamente relacionada com o nosso passado enterrado debaixo de uma placa de chumbo? Não, o Rui (apesar de ele também ter experiências com drogas pesadas nos anos 60-70)  decidiu ignorar os factos, os alarmes, a verdade relatada por crianças e de jovens que tinham sido educados para serem uma élite e que foram convertidos em "carne para canhão budistas".  Não, nós nem tínhamos o direito do benefício da dúvida, se nós não aceitávamos aquela educação como sendo exemplar, única no mundo e sobretudo perfeita, então era porque nós éramos um grupo de ingratos que só conseguia revoltar-se contra a mão do Mestre que nos tinha condicionado para nunca, em caso nenhum, pôr em questão o que ele fazia.  

Robert Spatz foi expulso da OKC? (resposta da OKC)

O senhor Spatz deixou o cargo de administrador da associação OKC Bélgica em 1991. Manteve-se como membro ordinário da associação, sem funções diretivas até que, há alguns meses, ele pediu para ser temporariamente suspenso de funções até ao final do processo. A OKC não tem um ‘chefe’.

Resposta do Ricardo : 

Quanto a isto o facto é que os adultos/pais da comunidade que resta na Bélgica souberam pela primeira vez o que se tinha realmente passado, quando finalmente conseguiram ler o acto de acusação do Estado Belga contra a OKC/Spatz. Para 90% deles foi a primeira vez que conseguiram pôr a mão em documentos verdadeiros sobre o processo. O facto é que durante mais de 17 anos o Rui isolou-se e esteve a tratar deste assunto sem qualquer envolvimento da comunidade no processo: "Os advogados do Spatz e da OKC é que vão tratar de tudo, nós os adeptos a única coisa que podemos fazer é rezar no templo".  

Quando souberam da verdade, quando souberam que as próprias filhas de alguns dos pais tinham sido abusadas sexualmente, é claro que a roda começou a girar. Perante uma revolta interna e pressionado por pessoas dentro da comunidade, o Spatz  para mostrar ao Tribunal que tinha boa vontade decidiu suspender as suas funções. 

Oficialmente a OKC não tem um ‘chefe’, mas o próprio Rui de Carvalho voltou a Espanha depois do Julgamento de 16 de setembro para ir receber ordens do Spatz sobre como organizar-se para a próxima etapa. Tanto o Rui como o Cabé (Presidente e Secretário e mão direita do Spatz) foram a Espanha só para isso: contabilizar quem está com a OKC e o Spatz e quem está contra e como organizar a expulsão daqueles que ousaram desafiar a verdade oficial desta história. Tantas mentiras e sofrimento vão acabar por denegrir o Budismo na Europa.

 

 Contra-Informação as mentiras da OKC e do Rui Oliveira