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Audio : Rob Hogendoorn is a Dutch investigative journalist who's spent years looking into this. How widespread is abuse in https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06l4v3f

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Naming and Shaming : Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang currently in trial since 20 Years, They KNOW ! #metooguru @NOS

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List of Tibetan Teachers being used by @OgyenKun to appear like a legit Buddhist center by using the name and images of known Buddhists teachers. Including the @Dalailama

 

In 2016 and 20 years before the trial all these Tibetans were assembled into one only page now broken so it looks like OKC wants to have the best of both worlds : use the legitimacy of these Tibetan Buddhist figures in court but at the same time appear respectful and prudent by hiding all these pages from public view on their website. in the case they finally remove these figures from their website here is the archive.

But if you know how to use a web browser, here is the full list of Tibetans still on OKC website + respective link to it :

Lama Kunzang Dorje self-assigned guru name of Robert Spatz and his profile page on the OKC website, this page was removed when several cases of sexual abuses surfaced inside OKC in the 2000's, at the time general secretary of OKC was hunting the web to remove any trace of Robert Spatz from the web, even from the organisation-cult he founded but here is the archive.

notice the subtle detail that OKC was using a picture with all the members, all the abused childrens, all the stolen parents to portray the profile page of OKC founder.


it can seems just a detail but it speaks volumes about the mentality inside OKC. On this picture RS is sitting next to Rabjam Rimpoche last visit in OKC before going into "retreat" mode, after having seen perhaps the huge dossier of crimes by Robert Spatz showed to him in France by OKC ex-doctor and personal doctor of Robert Spatz. this person is since 2 decades also a civil party in the trial against Spatz-OKC.

At the end of RS profile page you can read in French that the Lama Kunzang finally got out of retreat and kept teaching under the patronage of Rabjam Rimpoche and Pema Wangyal Rimpoche, the later son of Kangyour Rimpoche (supposedly the root guru of RS) If RS ever try to donate or even transfert OKC assets ownership to "the Tibetans" this is just a clever move to appear disconnected from OKC in the eye of France or Belgian Justice systems but as we have seen in 2016 with the trial and 2018 with the appeal Spatz still controls OKC and he can get majority control or use the organisation status he himself created to avoid consulting members on anything regarding finance or judicial matters. perfect to manipulate the remaining cult adepts to have no other choice but to follow his lead for his reasons. the cult is little but alive. 

Dalai Lama visited OKC Brussels in 1990 and spoke directly to Robert Spatz, gave him blessing and the Kashag authored a "certificate" used by OKC in court to justify they are a legit Buddhist center. Here too, all the pictures of Robert Spatz with the Dalai-Lama have been removed from OKC website but they are still using them in court to "prove" the legitimacy of Robert Spatz. we have those pictures. In court OKC use this document to supposedly display a DL approved endorsement. There is also such document from Penor Rimpoche, another head of Nyigma-Pa lineage, the oldest one, directly and traditionally responsible for the Dzogchen/Vajrayana type of practices at the root of the sexual, spiritual and physical abuses by Tibetan or Non Tibetan Buddhist "teachers" in the West and East. 
This is not a "western only problem". 



Setchen Rabjam Rimpoche : since the pseudo retirement of Robert Spatz either because of a false illness or an illness used to avoid Justice or because again "handling" out the OKC infrastructure is only good to serve the narrative that OKC belong to Tibetan Buddhism, Rabjam Rimpoche is since then the "spiritual director" of OKC, he was also in "retreat" in the last decade so OKC never got to see him much since 2006 but still OKC use this decoration in court to appear like a legit Buddhist center. RR visited OKC countless times being part of the court of Dilgo Kyentse Rimpoche, last visits where 2009 in Nyima-Dzong, 2004 OKC Tahiti "center", 2006 Nyima Dzong and countless other times in Nyima-Dzong when we were kids. Attestation from Rabjam Rimpoche cerca OKC

Yangtsi Rimpoche visited Nyima-Dzong in 2010 and 2014 and Brussels in 2014, meanwhile OKC was in trial since 97 purposedly hiding this information from all the Tibetan teachers invited on OKC properties.

Mingyour Rimpoche visited Nyima-Dzong in 2001, 2003 and 2006, he was in contact with the last generation of OKC youngsters and quite a positive figure to move from a repressive model to teach buddhism to a more joyfull and compassionate and interesting way to teach Buddhism to isolated kids, they all kept a very good memories of this time and it was certainly a change from the brutality of OKC "educators" even after the 97 police raid and subsequent investigation.


Pema Wangyal Rimpoche

Jigme Khyentse Rimpoche

Ringu Tulku Rimpoche

Khentchen Pema Sherab

Jetsun Khandro Rimpoche visited and gave lecture in Nyima-Dzong in 2017 out of "compassion" for the remaining members, unknowingly or not being used by OKC to appear legit.


Khempo Tseten Current Khempo resident at Nyima-Dzong OKC center, supposedly secretly against Spatz, still being paid by OKC-Spatz to be part of the decoration to appear as legit Buddhist center. This Khempo up to 2017 wasn't even able to remove Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang picture from INSIDE the Temple, next to Kangyour Rimpoche statue, next to countless Buddhist statues supposed to represent Buddha and other deities. 

The next 3 important Tibetan Buddhist figures had no idea on what they where getting into, the language barrier, the exile, the huge knowledge gap about the West inner working, they could not possibly know they where stepping into a personality cult decorated as a Buddhist center and their venue was a huge stamp of letigimacy to be used by OKC subsequently, and it worked.

Kyabje Kangyour Rimpoche the supposed "root guru" of Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang, Kangyour Rimpoche could not even speak English in the 70's when Spatz supposedly visited him and Spatz could not possibly speak a word of Tibetan but the later got "personal instruction" to build Nyima-Dzong and to "propagate" Buddhism in the West. Other testimonies from that time from people present at that time say it is impossible to match the founding myth of OKC with the reality at the time. the most probable is that RS simply invented the whole story and that his gullible followers in Belgium simply took it for granted having absolutely no other way to verify any part of the founding myth of OKC.

Dudjom Rimpoche visited OKC Brussels and OKC Nyima-Dzong in 1976, at the time these visits where seen as very important and ultimate proof that OKC was recognized and was legit. many people even started to follow OKC because of these visits. curiously Robert Spatz have been removed from the original pictures that you can see in OKC website. this is the "accreditation" used by OKC in court in 2018 to supposedly display legitimacy in front of the court, as if this could in any way exonerate OKC and Spatz from the law. 

Dilgo Kyentse Rimpoche : this visit also helped OKC appear and look like a leading Buddhist center in France
the visits took place in Nyima-Dzong in 80-82 and then in 1990. during those periods Nyima-Dzong was populated by at least 60 to 80 childrens all separated from their parents 2000km away in Brussels and these period where the worst for childrens regarding sexual abuse (by another pedophile called Bernard Pombal) but also by Robert Spatz (OKC founder) on at least 3 different girls minor of age at the time. 

 

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H.H. the Dalai Lama’s Comments on the Troubles in #Rigpa – Tibetan Buddhism – #MeToo

comment by RH in Contemporary Buddhism Group : 

It is encouraging that the Dalai Lama, at long last, spoke out openly about Sogyal Lakar and Rigpa. We should not forget, however, that he did so only after survivors’ stories and questions by reporters worldwide made it inevitable.

Likewise, we should not forget that for decades survivors and witnesses have repeatedly warned the Dalai Lama in vain about the sexual abuse by Sogyal Lakar, Namkha Rinpoche, and other Tibetan lamas. So far, Sogyal is the sole Tibetan abuser who the Dalai Lama has mentioned by name, while many others like him remain unnamed.

Finally, I am not aware of any effort by the Dalai Lama to invite survivors to share their experiences directly with him. His comments, at best, pay lip service to their plight—nothing more. Instead, the Dalai Lama focusses on the abuser, his entourage and institution. Clearly, he has not risen above the classic reflexes of religious figureheads of all denominations.

The Dalai Lama would do better to give the victims of sexual abuse by Tibetan clergy the recognition that is due, openly. He could do this by inviting a delegation of survivors to a meeting in his residence in India.

I would also suggest that the Dalai Lama hosts a Mind & Life meeting with (mostly) Western scientists about sexuality, sexual abuse and its treatments. The past decades, experts in the West, in part thanks to efforts of the Roman-Catholic church, have gathered a wealth of experience in these fields.

By and large, the Dalai Lama and other Tibetan lamas have remained oblivious of this expertise. As far as human sexuality and its derailments are concerned, a further training course is long overdue.

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Procès OKC - Spatz : Communiqué de presse de L'Union Bouddhique Belge #UBB #Belga #Buddhisme

Le procès OKC

Le jugement particulièrement bien motivé prononcé le 15/09/2016 par le Tribunal Correctionnel de Bruxelles dans le cadre du procès dit « de l’OKC » dénonce des comportements contraires à nos règles les plus élémentaires de vie en société dont le sieur Robert SPATZ (alias « Lama KUNZANG ») et d’autres personnes de son entourage se sont rendues coupables. Ces comportements sont évidemment aussi en totale contradiction avec les valeurs véhiculées depuis 2500 ans au sein de la tradition bouddhiste.

En conséquence, l’Union Bouddhique Belge salue le travail accompli par le pouvoir judiciaire pour clarifier les faits reprochés aux différentes personnes condamnées et elle exprime envers les victimes de leurs agissements sa plus profonde compassion.

Le chemin que le Bouddha a proposé à quiconque d’expérimenter a pour objectif ultime de libérer les êtres sensibles de toute souffrance physique ou morale. Ce cheminement implique une démarche de clarification de nos intentions individuelles et collectives, mais aussi un réel engagement sociétal visant à épauler tous ceux qui souffrent.

Dans cet esprit, les centres reconnus par l’Union Bouddhique Belge accueilleront évidemment avec une particulière bienveillance toute personne ayant été blessée au travers des actes dénoncés par le tribunal et qui souhaiterait y trouver un soutien spirituel.

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A Storm is Coming: Tibetan #Buddhism in the West #SexAbuse #TeacherPredator #Meetoo

In Nyima Dzong, people were indoctrinated to see everything in a positive light. Negative thoughts were said to be signs of a clouded mind. Only Robert S. allegedly had access to ‘true reality’. He quoted Tibetan teachers with whom he had supposedly studied in India. And various Tibetan teachers made him seem legitimate by visiting the OKC over the years, for example the Dalai Lama in 1990. By that time, many instances of sexual abuse had apparently already occurred.
Read more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/americanbuddhist/2017/11/a-storm-is-coming-tibetan-buddhism-in-the-west...

Buddhist scholar Bernard Faure recounts several of the scandals of Western Buddhism in his book on Buddhist sexuality, The Red Thread, but then warns us, “The problem is by no means limited to Western interpretations of Mahāyāna: it is also found in Asian forms of Mahāyāna and Theravāda… [F]ar from being mere accidents due to individual personalities, [the scandals] may also be seen as structural problems, having deeper social, psychological, and cultural roots. These behaviors found some doctrinal justification in the teachings of Mahāyāna or Great Vehicle— particularly in its most radical versions,Vajrayāna and Chan/Zen.”

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If you don't know the OKC-Spatz story here is 3 articles you should definitely read :

Testimony from an Ogyen Kunzang Choling survivor. https://buddhism-controversy-blog.com/2017/10/29/testimony-from-an-ogyen-kunsang-choling-okc-survivo...
verdict: 4 years suspended sentence : https://buddhism-controversy-blog.com/2017/03/11/robert-spatz-the-ogyen-kunsang-choling-cults-guru-g...
Abuse and Buddhism - Behind the Smiling Facade : https://www.info-buddhism.com/Abuse_and_Buddhism-Behind_the_Smiling_Facade-Anna_Sawerthal.html

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Another insulting, supposedly "humorous" Dzongsar Jamyang Khentse rant against "Liberal Westerners" #Buddhism

Another insulting, supposedly "humorous" Dzongsar Jamyang Khentse rant against "Liberal Westerners" #Buddhism

Is Dzongsar the new Tibetan Trump ? 

  • Such Arrogance !

  • Dzongzar has totally lost the plot. He's a ham actor playing to the gallery. His "humour" is not even vaguely funny. He misses every point that matters. The price you pay for celebrity status. He'd be better off sticking to makingmovies.

  • He has been mocking victims for a while so this might be him live. he is clearly angry at westerners. he used to talk about a buddhism with ethical and critical thinking as companions to knowledge. for about four years he has been openly disparaging western human rights standards, and western democracy,and believe it or not praising donald trump. usually in throw away lines. i suppose he thinks he's funny. 

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Testimony from an Ogyen Kunzang Choling (OKC) Survivor #sexualabuse #buddhism #rape #meetoo

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Nyima Dzong in the 80's

The following comment was posted by a Buddhist as a comment after having shared Ben’s powerpoint presentation “40 Years of Abuse in the Name of Dharma by ex-OKC born-kids” on Facebook.

Ben who stands behind this entire thing has a financial interest and is generally against Buddhism. The whole matter is already old and has been judicially negotiated for years. Ben’s goal is to close the center. But the center has nothing more to do with Robert Spatz and has been under the direction of Sechen monastery / Rabjam Rinpoche for years. Pictures of Robert Spatz, his long-life prayers, have long since been removed. Khenpo Tsethen is independent and what is said about him is out of thin air, simply a lie! Have you ever talked with Khenpo, Rabjam Rinpoche or were you in Nyima Dzong? As a monk, would you like to spread lies about Khenpo Tsethen without ever having spoken to him? Do you want to be part of the fact that people, monks lose their homes, and since they have devoted themselves entirely to the Dharma, they do not have a pension and end up in the middle of the age, or end up in the street? You can write about Robert Spatz, but PLEASE leave people out who have nothing to do with him. This article you have posted here contains untruths. Please check it!¹

Here is a response to that comment by a woman who was a child in the OKC.

A little history may help in understanding why this accusation is not only wrong but offensive and hurtful. For the sake of clarity, in this explanation when I speak of the “adults” of OKC I am talking about members who joined the community as adults, of their own free will. When I mention the “children” of OKC, I am referring to those of us who were either born into OKC or brought to the community by our parents when we were small. We are now adults of various ages ranging from the twenties to the forties and doing our best to piece ourselves together while coping with the devastating after-effects of our childhoods in the community. These effects range from trauma to pragmatic issues resulting from a lack of education (most of us were taken out of school at age 14), lack of parental guidance or financial support and difficulties integrating into ordinary society.

OKC was created in 1972 by Robert Spatz and a few others.

Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang

Over the next few years it grew into a community with religious centers in several countries. These centers included shops, restaurants and yoga facilities located in cities such as Brussels and Athens and isolated communities such as Nyima-Dzong. At Nyima-Dzong, members lived an alternate lifestyle in isolation from the “outside world” in a group of ancient buildings nestled in a secluded valley in the French Alps. Initially, this was a community of adults, but in the late 70s several families joined the community with small children and the first OKC babies were born on site. Each family was assigned to live in a single room with virtually no furniture other than the ubiquitous little altar bearing a photo of Spatz. We slept on the floor and piled our few belongings in the corners. The community did not have electricity or running water during the early years. We shared communal outhouses and lined up with bowls three times a day for food doled out by the communal kitchen, where food was cooked over a wood-burning stove. For the most part, we ate what we could grow, which meant that most meals consisted of turnips, carrots, and nettles that we picked in the wild, usually boiled without spices or salt. Children took lessons in a one-room schoolhouse tended by one teacher with very limited supplies. We had very little time with our parents, less than when we lived “outside,” because of the rigorous work and prayer schedule that we all followed seven days a week. Meanwhile, Spatz lived in luxury in a huge mansion in Brussels, driving a jaguar from one center to another, and relaxing by drinking wine and listening to Wagner on his yacht. His own children lived in the mansion with him, and were educated in exclusive private schools.

In the early eighties, a new system was announced. Rather than living with their parents, the children would live in dorms. We were triaged into three groups, the “bigs,” who were aged 10-12, the “mediums” who were 5-10, and the “smalls,” who were 2-4. A supervisor was assigned to each group, and there was no need for the parents to interact with their children at all. In fact, parents were under pressure not to interact with their children. Parents were told that they were filled with toxic thoughts and emotions and they were poisoning their children by their presence. If they wanted their children to grow up pure and strong, and to have a chance at enlightenment, it was imperative for them to pull away. Some parents went so far as to turn their heads when encountering a group of children, to avoid crossing eyes with their own child. This burden of becoming the enlightened future of the community fell heavily upon our shoulders as well. As children, we were expected to need nothing, want nothing, to give up our most prized dreams and possessions without complaint, to have no wishes, ambitions, goals, loves or fears. We were supposed to diligently work, study and pray every day without experiencing any emotion or receiving any attention, recognition or approval. However, there were plenty of adults willing to help us get rid of our egos by criticizing, and belittling us, even bullying us and/or taking our possessions. They shut down any complaint with the retort that our egos were talking, always the big egos leading us into shallow and selfish behavior; we should stop with all the self-importance, learn some humility and spend our days praying instead of complaining.

Children at Château de Soleils (Nyima Dzong)

After separating families on site, it was only a small step for Spatz to start literally sending the parents away, usually off to the cities where they could make money for the community by staffing its shops and restaurants, where many of them worked seven days a week without pay. Also, the families already living in Brussels were pressured to send their kids off to live in France. In addition to religious pressure and shaming, Spatz also used tactics such as telling people they were free to leave the community immediately if they were not willing to part from their kids. These were people who had quit their jobs, sold their homes and belongings and severed ties with their families to join the community. They had donated everything they owned and had nowhere to go. One after another, parents made the heartbreaking choice to send their children away to be raised at Nyima-Dzong. Even tiny two and three-years olds fell victim to this forced separation. Parents were only allowed to visit their children at Spatz’s whim. Some parents were allowed to visit twice a year, others once a year, others even less than that. I heard from one girl that she didn’t see her mother for almost three years, so long that she forgot what she looked like and struggled to pick her out in a crowd.

In the 90’s, the number of children living at OKC swelled and the number of adults shrank to just a small group tasked with raising the children. These adults for the most part had no experience with childcare and some of them had mental problems that made them unfit to be trusted with children. These adults were on duty 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with no vacations or holidays, such that even the kindest ones among them were vulnerable to caving under the stress and mistreating children. Also, once Spatz had the parents safely out of the way, he advocated an increasingly harsh lifestyle for the children. The schedule became more rigid, the food sparse to the point where children would steal vegetables from the garden in the dead of night, sitting in the fresh dirt to gobble them down as soon as they pulled them from the ground. Punishments were increasingly harsh. Small children were locked overnight in a shoe closet infested with rats, deprived of food sometimes for multiple days, forced to run endless circles barefoot in the snow and hit with switches. A pedophile ran rampant among the little girls, showering naked with them and slipping his hand under their nightgowns when he put them to bed. Yet another deranged disciple preferred to bully the boys, calling them to his room at night after charging them with small crimes, or sometimes no crime at all, and holding them down after stuffing a dirty handkerchief in their mouth so they wouldn’t make too much noise while he beat them black and blue.

Scenes: Children at Château de Soleils (Nyima Dzong)

When the oldest kids in this group reached their teens and grew rebellious, Spatz separated them from the smaller children and sent them to live in a community in Portugal. In a new twist, he began to include alcohol in his religious ceremonies. Kids were not only invited, but forced to drink, so much that by the end of some prayer sessions there were children throwing up all over the temple and others passed out on the floor who were unceremoniously piled into a cart and dumped in their rooms to recover. These teenagers were taught to fight, and told that they were in training to fight for their lives in an upcoming war that would bring an end to the world as we know it. Around this time Spatz also went through a Gypsy phase, where he traveled cross country in caravans with select members of the community, including teenage girls, partying along the way.

Screenshot from the video: Anniversaire Robert Spatz 13avril2001.mp4
(The children in this image are of another generation than the author of this post.)

As for me, I am one of the older children in the group. My family joined this community in the late 70s, when I was a small child. I was taken out of school at 14 and for the next three years I was routinely sexually abused by Spatz. I want to be clear that this was not a relationship that had even the pretense of being consensual; Spatz procured my obedience with trickery, intimidation and outright threats of harm to both me and members of my family. As a child, I used to look up to Spatz and think of him as a kind, fatherly figure, but during those three years I learned to hate him, so much so that I would feel sick to my stomach at the sound of his car pulling up to the building. In the face of total parental abdication, I had no-one to turn to. Spatz had full control over my fate. For all practical purposes, I was a captive, forbidden to leave the community even for brief visits to family members outside.

In the end, my older brother is the one who offered me a means of escape, when I was 17. I am one of the fortunate few who had some financial support from my family after I got out. Although it wasn’t easy, I managed to go back to school and get a college degree. I wanted to forget what I lived through at Nyima-Dzong and I tried hard to do so, but I found out that something more than willpower is required to heal from such an experience. Also, I was always worried about the children I had left behind, especially the younger girls. I worried that by escaping I had left behind a void that Spatz would simply fill with the next youngest girl. As it turns out, I was only half right – Spatz had already moved on to a couple of the next youngest girls long before I left, after taking the precaution of having his disciples move me away from Nyima-Dzong to a different location, so that I wouldn’t notice what he was doing.

It took me years to break through the spell of secrecy and speak up about Spatz, but I finally brought criminal and civil complaints against him in 1998. I found out later that three other women had done the same. After making these complaints I received a call from a woman in the community that I had loved as a child and for a second I thought she had called to tell me that she was sad or upset to hear about what happened to me. But that wasn’t it at all. She wanted me to drop the charges against Spatz because she was afraid that he would be sent to prison and the community would be shut down. People would be put out on the street, with no money and nowhere to go. What happened to me was in the past, she said, so couldn’t I just let it go instead of moving forward with a lawsuit that might ruin the lives of many innocent people? When I asked about other girls, she glossed over the question. I hung up feeling hurt by her indifference, and also wondering for the first time if the huge secret that I thought I had guarded for years was actually not a secret at all. The thought crossed my mind that perhaps some of Spatz’s disciples didn’t mind offering up a girl to Spatz every now and then in exchange for his continued patronage and support of the community.

I stood firm, but other disciples approached my family with the same logic, asking them to stop me from wreaking havoc on the community, and they fell prey to guilt. My mother pressured me to stop. My brother, who had been my only ally for years, told me that he wished me the best but he could not support what I was doing because he was worried about the fate of friends and family members still in the community. I tried to tell them that this was just a story that the community was using to manipulate them. Personally, I thought it was a little sick for the adults to purchase their religious blessings and financial security at the cost of their children’s suffering. Plus, I never believed that Spatz would support these people in their old age, as they expected him to do. It was because of Spatz that these people were destitute – he was the one who convinced them to donate everything to him and live in poverty while he freely spent the money he gathered. But I realized over time that the two of them were ashamed of my actions and felt guilty by association. They came back from visits to the community acting surprised and grateful that people were willing to talk to them despite what I had done. Ridiculously, it became a situation where my family was persuaded that they needed to protect Spatz and OKC from me, rather than the other way around. My brother eventually succumbed to guilt and wrote a letter to the Belgian police in 1998 suggesting that they ought not believe my story. He didn’t have the courage to tell me about this betrayal – I found out about it at the trial last year when Spatz’s lawyers tried to use it as evidence to discredit me. I know that my mother and brother both love me and that, at the time, they acted out of confusion, and under the influence of religious manipulation. I love them as well, and aside from issues related to OKC they have been the best mother and brother I could wish for. The trial last year stirred up all these issues and precipitated some long discussions among us and I am grateful that they have come to understand the situation more clearly and support me in what I am doing. The point I want to make is not to criticize them, but to show how insidious religious brainwashing can be, to the extent of turning loving family members against each other.

I’m sharing this story not to talk about myself but because it echoes the experience of the other OKC children. This worn out theme has been trotted out over and over again for 20 years now: OKC is a charming community filled with good people who will be provided with financial support and loving care in their elder years – but this wondrous existence is on the brink of being ruined by the selfish headstrong children of OKC who think only about themselves. OKC used this story for years to stop the younger generation of OKC from speaking up. It’s an effective tactic to use on kids who were raised to disregard their own well-being and avoid selfishness like the plague. For the most part, the OKC children who decided to testify at trial went through a very difficult personal struggle because of these accusations, and some of them backed out (despite suffering horrific abuse) because they couldn’t handle the guilt trip or disapproval of their parents. And many of them have family members who fell victim to the same guilt trips as my own family, and made statements to the police or tribunal trying to discredit them. These are family members of abused children! Cousins, uncles, siblings, parents knowingly undermining these children in an effort to protect Spatz and OKC.

 

In truth, Spatz created a network of companies that manage all money, people and assets related to OKC. The Belgian tribunal found that these companies, even the ones styled as non-profits and religious organizations, actually operated for the financial benefit of Spatz, rather than the community or the disciples. Money has been laundered back and forth between these companies over the years to the detriment of the people that they are supposed to benefit. How does one man manage to control the finances of multiple organizations and the lives of multiple people? Through his closest, most loyal disciples, who I think of as his “lieutenants.” During the trial, some of the former OKC disciples tried to seize control of the Belgian OKC organization away from Spatz. They were successful in getting him to retire as officer of the company, but his lieutenants then intimidated the group into submitting to Spatz’s continued control. Spatz’s lieutenants are the officers of some of the other OKC-related organizations. They still live in his centers – I know of at least one who still lives at Nyima-Dzong.

I don’t know anything about the Kenpo, but I assume he is financed by OKC Belgium or OKC France, both of which are still controlled by Spatz most loyal disciples. And, while OKC may have removed Spatz’ photo from their website, the photo still sits on its throne in the temple at Nyima-Dzong.

Circling back to the original accusation, I am troubled by the premise that the members of OKC should be protected because they have “nothing to do” with the wrongs perpetrated by Spatz. This is a fiction that lives on in part because, contrary to accusations, the OKC children are absurdly compassionate and forgiving. Most of the OKC disciples were complicit in one way or another in the abuse and neglect of the community’s children. Those that were not complicit are at the very least guilty of turning a blind eye in a situation where a compassionate human would ordinarily be expected to lend a hand. We (the OKC children) know that the adults were deceived and indoctrinated by Spatz and we know that he had a terrible way of twisting the truth and the religion, making acts of kindness seem like crimes, and crimes like acts of kindness. So we forgive the people who beat, neglected and mistreated us, or led us to his bedroom in the dead of night, choosing instead to focus on Spatz as the ultimate cause of the harm.

It is one thing to forgive the adults; it is quite another thing to engage in the pretense that they are innocent, and yet another thing entirely to attack the children who suffered a lifetime of abuse and accuse these children of selfishness! Make no mistake, some of these adults did terrible things. To give one example among many: one girl testified at trial that when she was 12 Spatz “gave” her as a girlfriend to a young man that he favored, and sent them off to travel with his gypsy caravan. One night, this older boy drank too much while partying with the adults and hauled the girl into his caravan, where he raped her. When he passed out she emerged from the caravan crying and went to sit by the campfire where she announced “I’ve just been raped, does anyone even care?” There was an awkward pause, and that’s the end of the story. No-one did a thing. This girl brought charges against Spatz for sexually assaulting her a year later, but insisted that she did not want to bring charges against the boy who raped her because she felt that he had been twisted and abused by Spatz as well and he had suffered enough. She also forgave the adults who allowed the boy to get drunk and haul her into a caravan, and who took no action after finding out about the rape – going so far as to refuse to disclose their names in order to protect them. Why? Because she feels pity for them, because she knows as we all do that Spatz hurt and controlled everyone. The boys chose to forgive the sick, twisted individual who came up with pretenses to beat them violently. And all the children have forgiven the parents who neglected and abandoned them.

Since there have also been accusations directly against Ben, I feel the need to point out that he is acting on behalf of a group of 25-30 former OKC kids, many of whom are still Buddhists themselves, and most of whom were plaintiffs in the trial against OKC. Any attack on Ben is, practically speaking, an attack on all of the OKC children. Speaking for the younger generation, right now what the children need is a little compassion and support from the world in light of the traumas that they have lived through and the life challenges that they currently face. To continue to attack them is simply cruel. Many of these kids have a parent who is still in OKC, or halfway in. And all of the kids are concerned about the financial well-being of the remaining members. No-one wants to see these people on the street! But most of these children believe, like I do, that Spatz has no intent to provide for his disciples in their old age. Spatz has sucked people dry over the years, to the point of half-starving children and depriving even terminally ill disciples of medical care. Anyone who believes that Spatz will generously take care of his disciples once they have nothing more to give him is sadly naïve. If Spatz was truly concerned, he could take action right now by setting up individual pensions for his disciples using the money he has hoarded for himself all of these years. Why focus the blame on the children instead of on Spatz, who has been found guilty of violating employment laws and appropriating the community’s money for his personal use?

In fact, the OKC children have had endless discussions about how to deal with the problem of elders aging in the community with no savings or accumulated social security. For this reason, we all supported the people trying to take OKC away from Spatz and hoped they would be successful. And if they had been successful and OKC was truly and irrevocably free from Spatz and his lieutenants, we would support OKC. I believe that most of us would like nothing more than to see Spatz’s disciples recreate a Buddhist community independent of Spatz and make it thrive. But we will not support an OKC that continues to dominate and mistreat people, and funnel money to Spatz.

Incidentally, the tribunal appeared to be concerned for the well-being of aging disciples as well. The court’s solution was to seize Spatz’s assets and create a fund to use as an alternative to social security for all of the adults who worked undeclared and without pay for OKC for most of their lives. That solution in my opinion is also better than letting things rock on as they are, which will result in financial hardship to everyone but Spatz and his most loyal lieutenants in the end. My only fear (which I believe is shared by some of the other children) is that there are adults so deeply entranced by Spatz that they will turn around and give the money right back to him.

The 20-year-old lawsuit against Spatz is not over. The case finally went to trial in 2016, and now it is on appeal, and we are all still holding our breath waiting for the final outcome. Nothing is over or resolved – not yet.


¹ Ben made clear that his goal is not to close the center. He is the spokes person of 23 civil parties, some of the older generations of youngsters (now adults) from OKC. There are now 170 charges against OKC by the Belgian Justice system. Eleven sexual abuse cases were presented in front of the court. In total there are 46 civil parties, some from the 1997 inquiry and all the others from the trial in 2016. A detailed clarification by Ben will be posted soon on this blog.

If you want to financially support the court case of the victims against Robert Spatz, you can donate via the Aide aux victimes de Robert Spatz GoFundMe Campaign.

 

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Testimony from an Ogyen Kunzang Choling (OKC) Survivor

I am troubled by the premise that the members of OKC should be protected because they have “nothing to do” with the wrongs perpetrated by Spatz. This is a fiction that lives on in part because, contrary to accusations, the OKC children are absurdly compassionate and forgiving. Most of the OKC disciples were complicit in one way or another in the abuse and neglect of the community’s children. Those that were not complicit are at the very least guilty of turning a blind eye in a situation where a compassionate human would ordinarily be expected to lend a hand. We (the OKC children) know that the adults were deceived and indoctrinated by Spatz and we know that he had a terrible way of twisting the truth and the religion, making acts of kindness seem like crimes, and crimes like acts of kindness. So we forgive the people who beat, neglected and mistreated us, or led us to his bedroom in the dead of night, choosing instead to focus on Spatz as the ultimate cause of the harm.

 

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Sexual assaults and violent rages... Inside the dark world of #Buddhist teacher #Sogyal Lakar

"Once you enter into the hermetic world of Tibetan Buddhism, you somehow burn your bridges to Western rationality."

Tibetan culture is such that it will never criticise another lama, especially one within your own group

Stephen Batchelor

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New : a timeline of abuses in the OKC-Spatz cult : http://www.okcinfo.news/pages/abuses-in-okc

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Call for all Buddhists in Europe: Tell @ogyenKun to cleanup it's "masters" page #okcinfo

So here is a few things OKC should do:

  1. Remove all the Masters/Teachers from your website until the trial is over & responsibilities are taken.
  2. Remove this article reaction from your Dossier site as it does not represent ANY of the current or former members of OKC much less the parents that discovered for the first time in 40 years what really happened to their kids.
  3. Remove the collective pictures of parents/kids associated with the head of the Cult Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang
  4. Shutdown your website renewed narrative until this trial is over and the fog is cleared! no other buddhist center in the world would dare to be in such position and still associate itself with legitimate teachers/masters of buddhism, it is arrogantly blind and ignorant to dare keeping it online like this trial is not even happening ! who the hell are you ? 
  5. Be humble & proactively communicate that Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang is a fraud. 

Update 2017 : 

Point 4 and 5 are not being put in practice. OKC should revoke the current board administration for life, change its name, ban Spatz for life, retake ownership and control of the Spatz Foundation, all these steps are not put in practice and therefore anyone can reach the conclusion that Spatz is still pretty much controling OKC. 
3 - The page of Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang was removed from OKC website : http://okc-net.org/index.php/project/lama-kunzang-dorje/
2 - This article was changed and reflects now the OKC decision to appeal the court decision and the Spatz sentence
but the argument of point number is still valid. 
1 - the page was removed, but all the masters are still displayed in their project page : http://okc-net.org/index.php/project

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August 2017 : Game of Thrones : sexual abuser sits on a Buddhist Temple in total impunity #buddhism #OKCinfo #sexualabuse

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Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang in 2017

Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang Nyima-Dzong 2017

Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang in NyimaDzong 2017

caption : photos taken in Nyigma-Dzong Buddhist Temple in august 2017, Robert Spatz serial sexual abusers sits on the main Temple alongside a statue of Khyentsé Rinpoché & other Tibetan Buddhist statues after a 18 years inquiry that culminated with a trial in 2016 where 23 new civil parties joined forces to denounce grave authority/sexual/spiritual abuse behind so called Vajrayana/Dzogchen initiations.

 

`Non Non Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang, accusé de 170 crimes dont abus sexuels sur mineurs et majeurs, torture et fraude fiscale et social, trône sur son siège à château de Soleils aka Nyima Dzong (depuis 40 ans) a côté de statues bouddhistes des plus grandes références du Bouddhisme Tibétain, dans un Temple dit Bouddhiste le tout sous les ordres explicites de Ogyen Kunzang Choling Bruxelles et son secrétaire général Lamten. Mais RS n'a plus rien à voir avec la OKC bien sûr. d'ailleurs sa Fondation Kunzang, dont il est le fondateur et l'administrateur en chef, elle non plus.. N'a rien à voir avec la OKC...

No No Robert Spatz alias Lama Kunzang, accused of 170 crimes from sexual abuse on minors & majors of age, torture, fiscal and social fraud is sitting in his throne at "Château de Soleils" aka Nyima-Dzong (since 40 years) alongside with Buddhist statues from the biggest references in Tibetan Buddhism, in a so called Buddhist Temple following the direct orders from Ogyen Kunzang Choling Brussels and his general secretary Lamten. 

But as everybody knows RS (Robert Spatz) has nothing to do with OKC anymore, by the way his Kunzang Foundation, from wich he is the sole founder and chief administrator has nothing to do with OKC neither. 

 

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The Tibetan Book of Living and Lying #sogyal #rigpa - #robertspatz #OKC

By now everybody has heard of the cover-up of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. But Buddhism still enjoys a reputation of being non-violent, open-minded, and pro-women.

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The Catholic church has shown us that it’s not the sexual abuse, pedophilia or corruption that brings an institution down, it’s the cover up and Tibetan Buddhism in the West is heading in the exact same wall.

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It seems not only Tibetan needs a code of ethic in the modern age, but it also need to comply to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights : http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Documents/UDHR_Translations/tic.pdf

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@SogyalRinpoche @OgyenKun To ALL Tibetan or Western Lamas, while in the West, you are subject to the laws of the land as much as we are. There is no ‘tantric exception’, exonerating Tibetan or Western Lamas, that will hold up in criminal courts in the West, and neither will ‘arguments’ like ‘crazy wisdom’, ‘guru devotion’, ‘vajrayana’, are valid arguments in courts.

If you think you are an exception because of a so called pure perception you are vastly misguided and you are misguiding others.

So maybe it is time for Buddhism to cut the ties between aristocratic feudalism lama title's passing from one generation to another and actual philosophy if Buddhism has any chance to survive.

Tibetan Buddhism refer to "the Kali Yuga" to describe the "end of times" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga the time where Buddhism will outpace a period of confusion, chaos and disasters of all sorts, maybe Buddhist Speakers (note the word Speaker instead of Teacher or Master) should have a look at their own behavior into the degeneration of Buddhist teaching in these difficult times.

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On Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche’s Statement From a Reader of the New York Times

By the time he finished, the main point—that a Tibetan, Vajrayana lama, who had been given asylum in a law-abiding, Western country, could break the laws of that country, could rape and beat women, and if his students spoke out, they would go to hell—was lost.

And I fear that while, Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche might act very hip, he is clearly coming from an ancient, misogynistic view point and students need to not lose sight of that. Women have worked too hard to get where we are now. Rape is rape and it is not the victim’s fault. This stand has taken millennia to sort out and as a woman, I appeal to students: Don’t let yourself be duped!

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Part of the necessary arguments to make against Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche #rigpa #buddhism

Part of the necessary arguments to make against Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche post are being developped here and they are worth reading, even more for cultist buddhists of all sort in swoon regarding Dzongsar text without much critical thinking, again taking him for an enlightened being instead of a human being first, teacher second. Westerners and everyone of us should stop putting these people's opinion in a sacred altar and instead use critical thinking to think by themselves. 

Une partie des arguments nécessaires à prendre contre l'opinion de Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoché sont développés ici et ils valent la peine d'être lu, encore plus pour les cultistes bouddhistes de tout genres en pâmoison devant le texte Dzongsar sans la moindre réflexion critique, le prenant à nouveau pour un être sublime au lieu d'un Être Humain en premier, Professeur.

les Occidentaux feraient bien d'arrêter de mettre l'opinion de ces "maîtres" sur un autel sacré et utiliser leur discernement et penser par eux même

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Sogyal Rinpoche Has Resigned from #Rigpa #Buddhism

It's interesting to see how the word allegations is being used all across the world when it's about Men sexual abuse, usually rich, priviledged, powerful men using their positions to try at all cost to appear innocent, "using the justice system" or a third-party independent body to look into these "allegations" while maintaning a narrative to appear like innocent. the denial is still KING, either for Sogyal or for RIGPA board, the tone of the letters sound as if the allegations will be proven false and his reputation soon restored. 

 

Letter to Sogyal from brave 8 : https://www.lionsroar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Letter-to-Sogyal-Lakar-14-06-2017-.pdf

letter to his students : https://cdn.tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/1_sr_letter_august_2017_eng-1.pdf 

board letter to their Sangha : : https://cdn.tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2_rigpa_letter_aug_2017_eng-1.pdf 

Presse release from RIGPA : https://cdn.tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Rigpa-press-statement-final-20170811.pdf

It's probably the last time we have to LINK the case to the case, both bearing very similar behaviour, not only from the "board" but also from the accused "master" himself, both using narratives, words and excuses to appear innocent that cannot be taken seriously. 

Any independent third-party looking into these matters should be the French Justice System, the Police, but for this to happen, survivors NEED to make a formal complaint, need to use the Human Law Justice system to make sure these so called "masters" are judged not only from a spiritugal point of view but most certainly from a Human Law point of view. Buddhism cannot exclude itself or put himsel on top of Human Laws as if sexual abuses conducted by a so called "master" can only be judged by spiritual laws or worst : stay for ever managed like a personal, internal dispute that an independent third-party could solve. 

Survivors from sexual abuse MUST go to Justice, must make a formal complaints, that is the only way to force not only Sogyal to face his actions but also to take this very very seriously and make sure this never ever happens again. of course adopting a code of conduct (the irony that a code of conduct needs to be crafted for a spiritual philosophy will not escape to anyone that Knows just even a fraction of what Buddhism stand for) 

To survivors we say : 

- Go to Justice, Buddhism is not a Law on top of Human Laws and Human Justice System. 
- If we really want to Clean Buddhism from these serial abusers, keeping this scandal an internal affair will never solve the problem, it will only push for later the possibility of a real, lasting solutions that can be put in place all across Dharma centers all around the World. 
- Do not think for one second that, as a survivor, Speaking up is Equal to "Harming Buddhism or Dharma or RIGPA" this is an excuse, used both in the case of OKC or other scandals that is a construct to minimise the importance of the abuse with the intent to preserve, turn off the light, the public eye from these abusers that use Buddhist Sangha & Dharma as a shield. 

Let's finish the work : let's speak up, let's make sure this never happens to anyone ever again.