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Naming and Shaming : Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang currently in trial since 20 Years, They KNOW ! #metooguru @NOS

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List of Tibetan Teachers being used by @OgyenKun to appear like a legit Buddhist center by using the name and images of known Buddhists teachers. Including the @Dalailama

 

In 2016 and 20 years before the trial all these Tibetans were assembled into one only page now broken so it looks like OKC wants to have the best of both worlds : use the legitimacy of these Tibetan Buddhist figures in court but at the same time appear respectful and prudent by hiding all these pages from public view on their website. in the case they finally remove these figures from their website here is the archive.

But if you know how to use a web browser, here is the full list of Tibetans still on OKC website + respective link to it :

Lama Kunzang Dorje self-assigned guru name of Robert Spatz and his profile page on the OKC website, this page was removed when several cases of sexual abuses surfaced inside OKC in the 2000's, at the time general secretary of OKC was hunting the web to remove any trace of Robert Spatz from the web, even from the organisation-cult he founded but here is the archive.

notice the subtle detail that OKC was using a picture with all the members, all the abused childrens, all the stolen parents to portray the profile page of OKC founder.


it can seems just a detail but it speaks volumes about the mentality inside OKC. On this picture RS is sitting next to Rabjam Rimpoche last visit in OKC before going into "retreat" mode, after having seen perhaps the huge dossier of crimes by Robert Spatz showed to him in France by OKC ex-doctor and personal doctor of Robert Spatz. this person is since 2 decades also a civil party in the trial against Spatz-OKC.

At the end of RS profile page you can read in French that the Lama Kunzang finally got out of retreat and kept teaching under the patronage of Rabjam Rimpoche and Pema Wangyal Rimpoche, the later son of Kangyour Rimpoche (supposedly the root guru of RS) If RS ever try to donate or even transfert OKC assets ownership to "the Tibetans" this is just a clever move to appear disconnected from OKC in the eye of France or Belgian Justice systems but as we have seen in 2016 with the trial and 2018 with the appeal Spatz still controls OKC and he can get majority control or use the organisation status he himself created to avoid consulting members on anything regarding finance or judicial matters. perfect to manipulate the remaining cult adepts to have no other choice but to follow his lead for his reasons. the cult is little but alive. 

Dalai Lama visited OKC Brussels in 1990 and spoke directly to Robert Spatz, gave him blessing and the Kashag authored a "certificate" used by OKC in court to justify they are a legit Buddhist center. Here too, all the pictures of Robert Spatz with the Dalai-Lama have been removed from OKC website but they are still using them in court to "prove" the legitimacy of Robert Spatz. we have those pictures. In court OKC use this document to supposedly display a DL approved endorsement. There is also such document from Penor Rimpoche, another head of Nyigma-Pa lineage, the oldest one, directly and traditionally responsible for the Dzogchen/Vajrayana type of practices at the root of the sexual, spiritual and physical abuses by Tibetan or Non Tibetan Buddhist "teachers" in the West and East. 
This is not a "western only problem". 



Setchen Rabjam Rimpoche : since the pseudo retirement of Robert Spatz either because of a false illness or an illness used to avoid Justice or because again "handling" out the OKC infrastructure is only good to serve the narrative that OKC belong to Tibetan Buddhism, Rabjam Rimpoche is since then the "spiritual director" of OKC, he was also in "retreat" in the last decade so OKC never got to see him much since 2006 but still OKC use this decoration in court to appear like a legit Buddhist center. RR visited OKC countless times being part of the court of Dilgo Kyentse Rimpoche, last visits where 2009 in Nyima-Dzong, 2004 OKC Tahiti "center", 2006 Nyima Dzong and countless other times in Nyima-Dzong when we were kids. Attestation from Rabjam Rimpoche cerca OKC

Yangtsi Rimpoche visited Nyima-Dzong in 2010 and 2014 and Brussels in 2014, meanwhile OKC was in trial since 97 purposedly hiding this information from all the Tibetan teachers invited on OKC properties.

Mingyour Rimpoche visited Nyima-Dzong in 2001, 2003 and 2006, he was in contact with the last generation of OKC youngsters and quite a positive figure to move from a repressive model to teach buddhism to a more joyfull and compassionate and interesting way to teach Buddhism to isolated kids, they all kept a very good memories of this time and it was certainly a change from the brutality of OKC "educators" even after the 97 police raid and subsequent investigation.


Pema Wangyal Rimpoche

Jigme Khyentse Rimpoche

Ringu Tulku Rimpoche

Khentchen Pema Sherab

Jetsun Khandro Rimpoche visited and gave lecture in Nyima-Dzong in 2017 out of "compassion" for the remaining members, unknowingly or not being used by OKC to appear legit.


Khempo Tseten Current Khempo resident at Nyima-Dzong OKC center, supposedly secretly against Spatz, still being paid by OKC-Spatz to be part of the decoration to appear as legit Buddhist center. This Khempo up to 2017 wasn't even able to remove Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang picture from INSIDE the Temple, next to Kangyour Rimpoche statue, next to countless Buddhist statues supposed to represent Buddha and other deities. 

The next 3 important Tibetan Buddhist figures had no idea on what they where getting into, the language barrier, the exile, the huge knowledge gap about the West inner working, they could not possibly know they where stepping into a personality cult decorated as a Buddhist center and their venue was a huge stamp of letigimacy to be used by OKC subsequently, and it worked.

Kyabje Kangyour Rimpoche the supposed "root guru" of Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang, Kangyour Rimpoche could not even speak English in the 70's when Spatz supposedly visited him and Spatz could not possibly speak a word of Tibetan but the later got "personal instruction" to build Nyima-Dzong and to "propagate" Buddhism in the West. Other testimonies from that time from people present at that time say it is impossible to match the founding myth of OKC with the reality at the time. the most probable is that RS simply invented the whole story and that his gullible followers in Belgium simply took it for granted having absolutely no other way to verify any part of the founding myth of OKC.

Dudjom Rimpoche visited OKC Brussels and OKC Nyima-Dzong in 1976, at the time these visits where seen as very important and ultimate proof that OKC was recognized and was legit. many people even started to follow OKC because of these visits. curiously Robert Spatz have been removed from the original pictures that you can see in OKC website. this is the "accreditation" used by OKC in court in 2018 to supposedly display legitimacy in front of the court, as if this could in any way exonerate OKC and Spatz from the law. 

Dilgo Kyentse Rimpoche : this visit also helped OKC appear and look like a leading Buddhist center in France
the visits took place in Nyima-Dzong in 80-82 and then in 1990. during those periods Nyima-Dzong was populated by at least 60 to 80 childrens all separated from their parents 2000km away in Brussels and these period where the worst for childrens regarding sexual abuse (by another pedophile called Bernard Pombal) but also by Robert Spatz (OKC founder) on at least 3 different girls minor of age at the time. 

 

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'Deze mensen geven niet om de boeddhistische leer' | #metooguru

Meeting in november in Dharamsala with all the Tibetan Buddhist "leaders"

- does it mean that Rabjam Rimpoche, the so called "Spiritual Director" of OKC will attend ?

who is going to confront these so called leaders about the sexual, physical and mental abuses in their so called "schools" ?

Again this is organized religions trying to handle its own abuses crimes on its own, instead of using democratic laws of the countries concerned to judge the predators.

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dans l'Echo
Arrêt dans l'affaire de la secte OKC. La Cour d'appel rendra son arrêt le 18 septembre dans le dossier de la secte Ogyen Kunsang Choling (OKC). Le gourou Robert Spatz et plusieurs de ses affidés comparaissent pour des faits de moeurs et des délits financiers multiples. Des dizaines d'enfants élevés sous l'emprise de la secte avant d'en sortir une fois majeurs se sont constitués partie civile. L'avocat de Robert Spatz a plaidé l'acquittement complet.

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dans La Libre papier du 3 septembre : Cour d’appel de Bruxelles . Jugement, le 18 , dans le dossier OKC. La communauté bouddhiste Ogyen Kunsang Choling, quelques-uns de ses responsables et son chef spirituel Robert Spatz sont prévenus, entre autres, de délits financiers, d’infractions à la législation du travail et de prise en otage d’enfants.

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Le Dalai Lama à la rencontre de victimes d'abus sexuels commis par des bouddhistes #metooguru

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Le Dalaï-Lama a rencontré vendredi à Rotterdam aux Pays-Bas quatre représentants de victimes d'abus sexuels commis par des enseignants bouddhistes. Il a clairement appelé à dénoncer publiquement ces abus pour faire ressentir le poids de la honte aux auteurs.

Un dossier livrant plus en détail les témoignages de 12 victimes de nationalités diverses lui a été remis. Le Dalaï-Lama s'est engagé à tenir une conférence sur les abus sexuels avec des psychologues et des religieux.

Parmi les quatre représentants de victimes qui se sont entretenus avec lui figurait un jeune adulte, né dans la secte bouddhiste Ogyen Kunsang Choling (OKC) du gourou belge Robert Spatz, qui parlait au nom de 23 parties civiles.

Ce sont les seules victimes mineures dénoncées à ce jour. Il questionne la possibilité de contrôler les enseignants. En effet, certains d'entre eux s'autoproclament "lamas" et utilisent même le nom du Dalaï-Lama. Parmi eux figure Robert Spatz, malgré les condamnations relatives à ses pratiques sexuelles. Celui-ci se défend en affirmant qu'elles relèvent du bouddhisme.

"Le Dalaï-Lama a été le premier à dénoncer ces abus en 1993", remarque cet ancien membre d'OKC. "Pour l'instant, les organisations bouddhistes se limitent à faire des enquêtes internes et le premier réflexe reste de faire des médiations avec les victimes. Mais ces médiations gardent ces scandales en interne et empêchent qu'ils ne finissent devant la justice." Il est pour lui important que les victimes aillent porter plainte afin d'amener ces affaires devant les tribunaux.

En Belgique, la cour d'appel de Bruxelles rendra mardi son arrêt concernant le gourou Robert Spatz. Il est notamment poursuivi pour abus sexuels et avait été condamné à quatre ans de prison en première instance.

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Le Dalaï Lama appelle à jeter l'opprobre sur les auteurs d'abus sexuels

(BELGA) = Le Dalaï-Lama a rencontré vendredi à Rotterdam aux Pays-Bas quatre représentants de victimes d'abus sexuels commis par des enseignants bouddhistes. Il a clairement appelé à dénoncer publiquement ces abus pour faire ressentir le poids de la honte aux auteurs.

Un dossier livrant plus en détail les témoignages de 12 victimes de nationalités diverses lui a été remis. Le Dalaï-Lama s'est engagé à tenir une conférence sur les abus sexuels avec des psychologues et des religieux. Parmi les quatre représentants de victimes qui se sont entretenus avec lui figurait un jeune adulte, né dans la secte bouddhiste Ogyen Kunsang Choling (OKC) du gourou belge Robert Spatz, qui parlait au nom de 23 parties civiles.

Ce sont les seules victimes mineures dénoncées à ce jour. Il questionne la possibilité de contrôler les enseignants. En effet, certains d'entre eux s'autoproclament "lamas" et utilisent même le nom du Dalaï-Lama. Parmi eux figure Robert Spatz, malgré les condamnations relatives à ses pratiques sexuelles. Celui-ci se défend en affirmant qu'elles relèvent du bouddhisme.

"Le Dalaï-Lama a été le premier à dénoncer ces abus en 1993", remarque cet ancien membre d'OKC. "Pour l'instant, les organisations bouddhistes se limitent à faire des enquêtes internes et le premier réflexe reste de faire des médiations avec les victimes. Mais ces médiations gardent ces scandales en interne et empêchent qu'ils ne finissent devant la justice." Il est pour lui important que les victimes aillent porter plainte afin d'amener ces affaires devant les tribunaux. En Belgique, la cour d'appel de Bruxelles rendra mardi son arrêt concernant le gourou Robert Spatz. Il est notamment poursuivi pour abus sexuels et avait été condamné à quatre ans de prison en première instance.

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Sometimes winning a battle is about knowing when to let it go ! #okcinfo #okcspatz #metooguru #metoo

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Thanks to all your donations both offline and online, we now reached 4.538€ we still have to top-up with 2000€ to reach the first step of being able to pay the lawyers.

If you can still share this campaign via email, social media or word of mouth please Know that each of these little things help us tremendously reach our general goal.

The Judgement day is approaching soon, many people from different countries will join and be present to the final of this 20 year long trial, the date is 18th of September, Justice Palace of Brussels. Check our out facebook event via the OKCinfo page to make sure to get the latest updates.

For many of us this is the end of a journey that started in 2016 with the first trial where OKC-Spatz got themselves a nice 4 year suspended sentence that they appealed 10 days after the sentence resulting in an appeal court trial in 2018. if there was one image representative enough to speak about the appeal is : Facebook comments & images where the only arguments beside openly lying under oath to counter our arguments and our multi faceted but converging stories depicting the reality inside OKC.

The cult could not do better than what they did to serve our objective : most of the testimonies from cult insiders to counter our arguments displayed either lies, cult conditioning, severe lack of discernment, absurd perjury and the use of Tibetan Buddhist figures to justify the legitimacy of their so called Buddhist center. We hope the Belgian Justice will be able to cut through the bullshit and see OKC and Spatz and the 7 direct accomplice as what they are : criminals that need to face their actions and their utter lack of integrity.

History will always remember the version of the survivors and we'll make sure it stays that way for eons to come: Ogyen Kunzang Choling is dead, Robert Spatz aka Lama Kunzang is just a shadow of psychopathy maintained alive by his utter fear of death and his belief that death is so important moment of life where one's actions are scrutinized, felt and seen by oneself and that on that moment, every pain, every abuse, every torture will be felt thousands of times stronger and for eternity.

That's what await the circle of jerks around RS and that's what await RS/LK and that's what they will get. Karma is a bitch they say, Human Justice may be flawed (flaws used and abused by OKC to last this trial for 20 years is one of their feats certainly) but in the end, even before the judgement day, we already won, we spoke up, we united to fight the only battle worth battling for : ourselves and that along with handling our lives and healing is the best way to celebrate winning with or without a matching human justice system sentence.

May the Light always be !

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Update: Thanks to all the donations, offline & online, they really help us reach our crowdfunding goal ! #meetoo #okcinfo

Update: Thanks to all the donations, offline & online, they really help us reach our crowdfunding goal ! #meetoo #okcinfo

Even though the "Thunderclap" generated some more awareness about our case, we still have to reach a minimal of 5K in our crowdfunding to be able to pay just the first part of our legal defence. offline donations will be added to the overall total of donations on https://www.gofundme.com/okcinfo, right now we're just above 4K with the offline donations. 

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H.H. the Dalai Lama’s Comments on the Troubles in #Rigpa – Tibetan Buddhism – #MeToo

comment by RH in Contemporary Buddhism Group : 

It is encouraging that the Dalai Lama, at long last, spoke out openly about Sogyal Lakar and Rigpa. We should not forget, however, that he did so only after survivors’ stories and questions by reporters worldwide made it inevitable.

Likewise, we should not forget that for decades survivors and witnesses have repeatedly warned the Dalai Lama in vain about the sexual abuse by Sogyal Lakar, Namkha Rinpoche, and other Tibetan lamas. So far, Sogyal is the sole Tibetan abuser who the Dalai Lama has mentioned by name, while many others like him remain unnamed.

Finally, I am not aware of any effort by the Dalai Lama to invite survivors to share their experiences directly with him. His comments, at best, pay lip service to their plight—nothing more. Instead, the Dalai Lama focusses on the abuser, his entourage and institution. Clearly, he has not risen above the classic reflexes of religious figureheads of all denominations.

The Dalai Lama would do better to give the victims of sexual abuse by Tibetan clergy the recognition that is due, openly. He could do this by inviting a delegation of survivors to a meeting in his residence in India.

I would also suggest that the Dalai Lama hosts a Mind & Life meeting with (mostly) Western scientists about sexuality, sexual abuse and its treatments. The past decades, experts in the West, in part thanks to efforts of the Roman-Catholic church, have gathered a wealth of experience in these fields.

By and large, the Dalai Lama and other Tibetan lamas have remained oblivious of this expertise. As far as human sexuality and its derailments are concerned, a further training course is long overdue.

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Breaking the Silence on Sexual Misconduct in Buddhist cults (read Sexual Abuses)
https://www.lionsroar.com/breaking-the-silence-on-sexual-misconduct/

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Presse : OKC Pas « d’organisation criminelle » Jugement en Septembre 2018 ! #secte #toxique #PN

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Pas « d’organisation criminelle » Lors de son réquisitoire, l’avocat général Jean-François Godbille a renoncé à la prévention « d’organisation criminelle », jusqu’alors considérée comme la principale piste de l’accusation dans le procès de la secte bouddhiste OKC. Le magistrat s’en est expliqué pour éviter un écueil judiciaire. En effet, ...

Lors de son réquisitoire, l’avocat général Jean-François Godbille a renoncé à la prévention « d’organisation criminelle », jusqu’alors considérée comme la principale piste de l’accusation dans le procès de la secte bouddhiste OKC. Le magistrat s’en est expliqué pour éviter un écueil judiciaire. En effet, il y avait un risque, selon lui, de voir tout le dossier s’écrouler et reprendre à zéro. Ce qui aurait hypothéqué l’enjeu financier, colossal. M. Godbille a en effet demandé la confiscation du Château de Soleils ainsi que du patrimoine privé de Robert Spatz (yachts, villas en Espagne), mais aussi les biens immobiliers bruxellois liés à l’OKC. Et surtout, en plus de ces biens, il a réclamé la confiscation d’une somme dépassant huit millions d’euros contre Spatz. Au-delà des affaires de mœurs sordides, la bataille judiciaire se joue aussi dans les porte-monnaie.

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Source LeSoir 4 mai 2018 page 10